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Killzone is the best shooter for PS3



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Solid_Raiden said:
heruamon said:
Solid_Raiden said:
heruamon said:
Solid_Raiden said:
lol at the 360 fans coming in here and bashing Killzone 2. Honestly, some of the people posting anti Killzone 2 crap in here don't own a ps3 and have never played the game. Heruamon, I'm looking at you since your the most recent! Do you do anything but talk about and compare ps games you've never played to other titles (first it was GoW which you admitted to never playing and yet continued a lengthy argument with every one who did in the Dante's Inferno thread). You can't tell me there aren't enough quality 360 games to discuss, I know better.

As for the topic. I greatly preferred Killzone 2's multiplayer. Between the switching objectives which combine all game modes into one round (this was a great new idea for online but no one ever gives the game it's credit), the depth of the classes all of which are fun to play with and master and maybe with the exception of the Assault class are all very well balanced, and what I would call the best maps in an online FPS this gen (tied with COD4 actually) it all adds up to an incredible mp that I was addicted to for months which is much longer then I stick with games. I like to bounce from game to game as they are released. That said, I'm in the camp that believes the Single player was mediocre, with a poorly fleshed out story and very dislikable characters. Meanwhile, I very much enjoyed the MW2 campaign. MW2 <<<< MW though in every way to me. I dislike the mp in MW2 but Cod4 had the best of both worlds. A superior single player (barely) and a superior multiplayer. I loved every COD4 map but I've found myself only like 2 MW2 maps.

LMAO @ the thought that if a game sells more it's better. How would the people who bought MW2 and not KZ2 know which is better if they never bought Killzone 2??!?! How many ps3 owners who got sucked into the hype of MW2 never even heard of Killzone 2? Either way, they are both great games and you can't lose with either.

I'm not bashing KZ...I'm pointing out the fact that a vast majority of PS3 owners, choose MW2 over KZ2...so why is it that if KZ is highly superior to MW2, this happened?  Sales doesn't mean MW2 is a better game, but it's riddiculous to say KZ is so far superior to  MW2.  We are talking about video games here, not battle simulators...evidently, alot of CONSUMERS (you know, the reason games are made) don't feel the same.  It's one thing to say I'm trolling if I compared Halo 3 to KZ2, but MW2 has been very well received on the PS3, and in reading most of the PS3 fans on this thread, they'd make it seem like MW2 is crap compared to KZ2...and you say I'm trolling?

And as for DI's, I stated that based on the demo it ripped a bit off God of War in some respects, but we've not yet seen the final product.  Lastly...So I'd better not see you in any discussion about 360 games.

You might want to look again, I actually own all consoles (and enjoy each and every one of them) and therefore I can actually make actual edjucated opinions on all of the hardware and software that I purchase and spend hands on time with. So when I go into a thread and post my opinion you can expect it to be based off of my own personal experiances and not just my preconceptions of products that I've never spent time with. And if I haven't had hands on experiance with something, I'll be damned if you see me arguing with 200 people who have. Now if it comes to speculation on something that isn't released that's a whole different story. Every one can pretty much give an opinion as no one has ever really experianced it first hand. Fanboyism always comes into play also, and you've got to watch out for that. But that's a topic for another day.

I saw, but your gamer score indicates you haven’t owned or played many 360 games (since it’s hidden I couldn't check your inventory).  In the case of DI...I have play both DMC and the Bayonetta demo, and I saw alot of similiarities between those games and DI, so I couldn’t see why people singled out God of War specifically as the complete source,...except that those are Japanese developed games.  As for KZ2 being exponentially being better than MW2...my question was why is there such a schism between the perceive exponential quality of KZ, over the exponential sales of PS3 MW2 over it?  I’m not a PS gamer, but I knew all about the game coming out, so are 80% of PS3 owners  non-gamers?

You shouldn't assume things. I have an offline account that I play all of my games offline with as to not get bugged by friends when playing my games. I don't know why my gamercard randomly goes hidden on and off but if you do check my games you'll see that I've got quite a few games in my library and that most of them are 0 gamer score because of this fact. Also, you didn't single out any single posts or even make a reference to any one group of posters, therefore I would assume that you were replying to the op. And if you will read the op again he makes no claims of k2 being exponentially better then MW2. He says that K2 wins out just barely. Also, if someone dislikes mw2 that's their opinion and I would think they came to that conclusion after having played the game. Now if you want to single out some fanboyish comments that's fine. But all I saw (disclaimer: I have not read this entire thread) was mostly posters who it would seem to have played both titles and come to a conclusion. A few people bashed one game or the other and music already called those people out. But to come into the thread and make comments like yours with no base are not needed. Even if someone very much dislikes MW2 but loves KZ2, or vise versa it shouldn't bother you so much as long as they came to that conclusion having actually played both games. But for you to even have an opinion one way or the other to have an opinion on their opinion you would have to come to your own conclusion having played both titles yourself. Otherwise your blindly making accusations as if they had real substance.

You bore me...later.



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KylieDog said:
They are both very flawed games.


When I look at both I fail to care which is better because if I never played either of them I wouldn't be missing much.

In what ways are they flawed? Please expand on your comment.

I personally do not like JRPGs but I wouldn't say that FF13 is flawed because I do not like it or will not play it.

I think that the discussion has become so heated because in part both KZ2 and MW2 are excellent FPS. MW2 won best shooter here but KZ2 won best shooter at Gamespot. Both decisions are not scandalous though I personally favour KZ2.



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--OkeyDokey-- said:
At this point I'm thinking I could make a thread titled "Haze > MW2" and I'd have the majority of people agreeing with me.

Haze craps all over MW2.

And I know it because I own both



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KylieDog said:
Fufinu said:
KylieDog said:
They are both very flawed games.


When I look at both I fail to care which is better because if I never played either of them I wouldn't be missing much.

In what ways are they flawed? Please expand on your comment.

I personally do not like JRPGs but I wouldn't say that FF13 is flawed because I do not like it or will not play it.

I think that the discussion has become so heated because in part both KZ2 and MW2 are excellent FPS. MW2 won best shooter here but KZ2 won best shooter at Gamespot. Both decisions are not scandalous though I personally favour KZ2.

 

I think WaW is better than both KZ2 and MW2.

 

KZ2 story was overdone macho bullshit and MW2 story was a bunch of mixed up characters with stupid twists and events that served no purpose other than shock value.  WaW while by no means an amazing story was kept simple enough to not become a joke of itself like MW2 and it didn't have to resort to macho bullshit with constant swearing and not much else like KZ2.

 

For multiplayer WaW just craps over both of them.  They all are very similar infinitry limited shooters so it come down to game modes first.  WaW has a large variety of competitive game modes, beats KZ2 numbers and I think is equal with MW2.  However WaW then goes beyond this and included 4 player online co-op.  For both campaign and the all new Nazi Zombie game, plus it allowed competitive co-op and the death card modifiers to mix things up a bit.   By comparison KZ2 has no co-op at all and MW2 has a 2 player only mini-game co-op with no replay value and which doesn't even have a matchmaking system.

 

MW2 and KZ2 also suffer a community made problem.  They give the players too many options and players in general aren't very clever when it comes to balance.  Playing KZ2 I never once found a game with friendly fire turned on, a lot of games were filled with nade spamming even at allies feet and players running back and forth getting hit by friendly fire.  Most of the time the Assault class was disabled also, or the class was enabled but rockets and nade launchers disabled.  Various other problems with stupid settings on some game types removing what should be good for the game. 

 

MW2 suffers problems with the sheer amount of add-ons to guns and perks and kill streaks and death streaks.  A major complaint with the first was campers and MW2 gives a bunch of new gadgets, perks and kill streaks that encourage more camping, more useful things than what encourages people not to camp, this is goes against nearly every game modes intentions and is thus counter productive.  The game is also filled with kill streak rewards now probably earning more kills than guns and some of them are so unbalanced it is just silly.  I'm not sure if any thought actually went into balancing and not just "This would look cool and make people talk".   WaW does options better, they give the player some personal modifiers but nothing very drastic and most importantly nothing that affects other people, the options affect the player that uses them only.

KZ2 story = agreed it's not its major strength :) However I think the gameplay was fun with some really great set-pieces and some challenging levels, especially on elite (possibly too challenging).

KZ2 community = we form part of that. we should help out by setting up games based on our likes. If that is popular, other people will join.

KZ2 multiplayer = downright fun. 16 vs 16 bloodbaths are amazing. I love playing that at Blood Gracht!

KZ2 co-op = would have been very nice hope to see it in KZ3



dharh said:
nightsurge said:
dharh said:
Dynamic spawn points and limited invulnerability after spawn. The dynamic spawn point is the obvious better fix as the limited invulnerability is kinda lame and old school. A third option is to create a spawn point that cannot be accessed by the enemy, but since the maps are already made this would require remaking the maps.

 

@nightsurge,

Dunno why anyone would even think of this as a possible solution. The reverse however, moving the spawnpoint (not the spawn camper), is a perfectly viable solution.

He wasn't talking about "spawn" campers.  That's an easy fix.  Even in CoD you don't see much spawn camping because the spawns are all over the place and move every time enemy players get too close.

He was talking about campers in general.  Like camping with claymores and a sniper, camping with c4 and heart beat sensors, etc.  Just plain sitting around waiting for others to come accross your traps rather than moving around finding other players.  Nothing can be done about that.

Ah well I don't care about those "campers", since they have always existed and you need to change your tactics if that is what's causing you to lose.

Lol exactly.  I don't have a problem with them.  I'm both an excellent camper and an excellent camper killer   Its pretty easy when you are dominating everyone with a fully stealthed class like I use.  You will never hear me, see me in thermal or kill streaks, or even see my name or a red reticule



I'd have to go with KZ2 just because I enjoyed the online multiplayer way more than MW2. 16 on 16 is just too great.



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definatly killzone 2,multiplayer is just too much fun



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I have both games and have played every single KZ and CoD (except the PSP CoD and Big Red One) and I think they are annoying and mediocre games. I don't know why... The only FPS that I've liked on 360 and PS3 are Resistance and Halo... that's it.