I am also more excited about Versus since E3.

But I am not giving up on this one yet, though I didn't like the caracters and the plot so far.

Yeah, XII was a disappointment in terms of story. Especially since I replayed FFX right before I played FFXII and I loved the story in FFX. But yeah, the gameplay and the world in FFXII was very fun and addictive because of how fighting was so seamless, it made grinding/questing/hunts all that more enjoyable.

You seem to hate FF so much yet keep playing them. I wonder which one something is wrong with....you or the games?

Random counters are a bitch, which I clearly found out in FF6 recently.

I found Kurt Zisa to be fairly easy. I didn't even have much strategy, just whacked away at him.

Ice Titan isn't really hard, it just takes awhile since you gotta react to his patterns and hit the icicles back.

Phantom is potentially hard if you don't know what you're doing, but as long as you stock up on the right items and are good with magic and timing, you shouldn't have too much trouble.

The only one I would classify as hard would be Sephiroth. Since he has that attack that drops you to 1hp/1mp, but even then you just stock up on Elixers and/or hit him before he gets it off.

That's why I play FF4/FF5/FF6 on my CPU as a SNES Rom. (Even though I own FF:Chronicles and FF:Anthology) Since you can do turbo speed which makes things go so much faster, which is ideal for grinding out exp and learning magic.

FF6 is my favourite FF of all time, and ive played through it at least 10 times, as ive stated in this thread.

Just because someone likes a game doesnt mean they cannot find some things are a bad game design in that game.

So the problem is your interpretation.

Did any of this get mentioned in other threads?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=928790&topic=52796021

"Towns exist but feel like extensions of dungeons, with nothing much you can do in them except looking for treasure balls and moving on to the next objective.

Talking to NPCs is done by an "auto-talk" function that makes NPCs say a line when you go near him. NPCs only say generic lines like "Welcome to ...." or "I want to see the chocobos" or "Snow, you're awesome". You feel like you're overhearing others' conversations.

You do get to talk to certain semi-important characters by pressing confirm. Then you get to read the next in a tiny box at the bottom left of the screen, which displays about two and a half lines.

The number of minigames can be counted on approximately two fingers.

There is no backtracking to locations in the first ten chapters in the post-game.

Chapter lengths are about 1-3 hours. They are padded with plenty of cutscenes except for the final dungeon."

(I admit I am just trying to ruin FF fans Christmas)

all of that has been mentioned to death, the fact stll remains most ppl like th game, like with most ff's a vocal minority hate th game

Remember that each FF title has its fair share of haters and supporters. Such is the nature of a series that emphasizes change, as human nature does not initially take kindly to change

Scaring people away from this title based on bullet points/live streams/previews/demos/past games/ect is the very defintion of prejudging, presumption, and assumption, and it certainly isn't fair to the developers of the game. Especially when the very nature of the game is the afformentioned nature of change which always creates rifts amongst fans of the series and fans of gaming as a whole.

Your assertions are that, somehow, we should look at the release of this Final Fantasy as something different. We should assume that the game actually will suck for everyone, instead of, like past itterations, recieve mixed, but largely positive reviews from critics and gamers. The truth is, the game has recieved many positive reviews from gamers, and probably more positive than negative which can't be said for VIII, which is now considered a classic despite poor initial user reviews.

You can't tell what a game is going to be from reading bullet points, you never could. Remember when Resistance 2 came out? It had a list of bullet points so long, that many of the bullet point faithful, believed the game would be far better than Gears 2, its competing title.

What you people are doing, is thinking very simplistically. You are taking the negative bullet points presented in this thread, and applying them to past entries of the FF series. Even the article in the OP mentions things that were "taken out of Final Fantasy" when in truth, nothing was taken out of a game that has been completely revamped, and which shares almost no similarity with itself between entries.

You don't know what the end game is like, you don't know the depth of the game, and that point is still unclear for even users who have beaten the game completely, as new things are being discovered as we speak. Again though, if I were to say "this game has no sidequests" again, that would be a bullet point that you would relate to past entries.

A games quality cannot, nor ever shall be completely summerized in a short but sweet list of bullet points, especially when it is a completely original game. The feel of the game, its details, atmosphere, and heart are only felt after a playthrough. Relying on userreviews for a game that is notorious for splitting user opinion, for a game that has just a many 10s as it does 0s, is purposefully ignoring facts that are staring you right in the eye.

The game, like JRPGs, like every FF game thus far released, is going to have fans who love it, and detractors who hate it. If you only listen to one side, and never find out for yourself, then you are cheating yourself.