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mike_intellivision on 26 December 2009

There would be NO third party games. Developers already use that as an excuse, they would really use it next time around (and rightfully so because by the time the next generation of consoles come out, HD will be ubiquitous).



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SaviorX on 26 December 2009

It'll go beyond HD..... UHD (the U is for Ultra, fulfilling what they wanted to call the N64 ~14 years ago)



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Sempuukyaku on 26 December 2009
couchmonkey said:
Dr.Grass said:
EL_PATRAS said:
Joelcool7 said:
EL_PATRAS said:
i think the real question here is: What if the next nintendo console is yet again technically inferior to the competition?

I don't think thats the real question. Nintendo fans don't mind being a little inferior to the competition. But we do expect that Nintendo will at least beat PS3. I'd pay another 300$ for a PS3 power console next gen from Nintendo, I don't care if it is a little inferior to the PS4/NexBox as long as the console isn't drastically inferior. I was fine with the Wii being 2x the X-Box and would be fine with the next console being the same power as PS3.

Ask any other Nintendo fan whether they care if Nintendo is graphically inferior to PS4/NexBox and I bet most won't really care that much. Then again third parties will most definatly care! But I don't buy Nintendo consoles for third party games so I could give a flying crap what they think lol!


That's the problem right there.  Do you want to lag behind the other consoles playing only ports and half-assed excuses for games, or do you want to play some MGS, GTA and other awesome franchises.  The wii being technically inferior to the competition this gen has condemned unintendo fans to playing a cart load of sub-par games.  I'll buy the next nintendo console even if it's just 2 wiis taped together(wink, wink), because the reason i play games is to play nintendo games.  Be this as it may, the gap between nintendo and its competition this generation is too abyssmal to be over looked, and I for one most definetly hope next gen will be diferent.

I agree.

Even though Nintendo is #1 for me, I think they could've at least tried to put a powerful processor in there. The gap, as you say,  is too large. Next gen I want to see some quality 3rd party games and not just shovelware.

I hate to say it, but graphics matter. It's not everything, but it does matter.

But why should we assume that more power would equal higher-quality third party games?  That wasn't really the case for GameCube which didn't get MGS or GTA.  It got better multi-platform releases than Wii, but that's not saying much.

Gonna have to agree there. The fact that the Gamecube had pretty much the same install base as the Xbox, and we didn't get GTA, is pitiful. I mean, yeah let's try to get 3rd party support....but we can't rely on them (outside Japanese 3rd parties). We're going to need to have more software diversification outside of the core franchises so that we're self-sustaining.



silicon on 26 December 2009

Then they'll lose market share.



EL_PATRAS on 26 December 2009
Sempuukyaku said:
couchmonkey said:
Dr.Grass said:
EL_PATRAS said:
Joelcool7 said:
EL_PATRAS said:
i think the real question here is: What if the next nintendo console is yet again technically inferior to the competition?

I don't think thats the real question. Nintendo fans don't mind being a little inferior to the competition. But we do expect that Nintendo will at least beat PS3. I'd pay another 300$ for a PS3 power console next gen from Nintendo, I don't care if it is a little inferior to the PS4/NexBox as long as the console isn't drastically inferior. I was fine with the Wii being 2x the X-Box and would be fine with the next console being the same power as PS3.

Ask any other Nintendo fan whether they care if Nintendo is graphically inferior to PS4/NexBox and I bet most won't really care that much. Then again third parties will most definatly care! But I don't buy Nintendo consoles for third party games so I could give a flying crap what they think lol!


That's the problem right there.  Do you want to lag behind the other consoles playing only ports and half-assed excuses for games, or do you want to play some MGS, GTA and other awesome franchises.  The wii being technically inferior to the competition this gen has condemned unintendo fans to playing a cart load of sub-par games.  I'll buy the next nintendo console even if it's just 2 wiis taped together(wink, wink), because the reason i play games is to play nintendo games.  Be this as it may, the gap between nintendo and its competition this generation is too abyssmal to be over looked, and I for one most definetly hope next gen will be diferent.

I agree.

Even though Nintendo is #1 for me, I think they could've at least tried to put a powerful processor in there. The gap, as you say,  is too large. Next gen I want to see some quality 3rd party games and not just shovelware.

I hate to say it, but graphics matter. It's not everything, but it does matter.

But why should we assume that more power would equal higher-quality third party games?  That wasn't really the case for GameCube which didn't get MGS or GTA.  It got better multi-platform releases than Wii, but that's not saying much.

Gonna have to agree there. The fact that the Gamecube had pretty much the same install base as the Xbox, and we didn't get GTA, is pitiful. I mean, yeah let's try to get 3rd party support....but we can't rely on them (outside Japanese 3rd parties). We're going to need to have more software diversification outside of the core franchises so that we're self-sustaining.
There were no multiplats last gen people.  Sony had there games, Nintendo had theirs and so did Microsoft.  MS got some third party franchises, such as prince of persia, GTA, the EA sports games, ect... exclusivley because they coughed up a serious amount of cash for them.  This gen is the multiplat gen.  Sony has lost its vice grip on the industry and is trailing behind Ninty and MS.  So what happens?  the third parties start developing for MS aswell instead of developing exclusivley for Sony.  Be this as it may, ninty gets left out due to its inferior software.When the Wii came out, there was no way of knowing this would happen.  MS gambled, and went head on against Sony, and Xbox owners are now enjoying that success.  I can't blame nintendo for what they did, nor is it exclusivley thier fault.  There are too many factors involved to go around pointing fingers, but i think that a Nintendo console with better hardware will definetly lead to better software.  Nintendos war with third parties has been going on for over a decade now anyway.


                                                                           

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Dr.Grass on 27 December 2009
Sempuukyaku said:
couchmonkey said:
Dr.Grass said:
EL_PATRAS said:
Joelcool7 said:
EL_PATRAS said:
i think the real question here is: What if the next nintendo console is yet again technically inferior to the competition?

I don't think thats the real question. Nintendo fans don't mind being a little inferior to the competition. But we do expect that Nintendo will at least beat PS3. I'd pay another 300$ for a PS3 power console next gen from Nintendo, I don't care if it is a little inferior to the PS4/NexBox as long as the console isn't drastically inferior. I was fine with the Wii being 2x the X-Box and would be fine with the next console being the same power as PS3.

Ask any other Nintendo fan whether they care if Nintendo is graphically inferior to PS4/NexBox and I bet most won't really care that much. Then again third parties will most definatly care! But I don't buy Nintendo consoles for third party games so I could give a flying crap what they think lol!


That's the problem right there.  Do you want to lag behind the other consoles playing only ports and half-assed excuses for games, or do you want to play some MGS, GTA and other awesome franchises.  The wii being technically inferior to the competition this gen has condemned unintendo fans to playing a cart load of sub-par games.  I'll buy the next nintendo console even if it's just 2 wiis taped together(wink, wink), because the reason i play games is to play nintendo games.  Be this as it may, the gap between nintendo and its competition this generation is too abyssmal to be over looked, and I for one most definetly hope next gen will be diferent.

I agree.

Even though Nintendo is #1 for me, I think they could've at least tried to put a powerful processor in there. The gap, as you say,  is too large. Next gen I want to see some quality 3rd party games and not just shovelware.

I hate to say it, but graphics matter. It's not everything, but it does matter.

But why should we assume that more power would equal higher-quality third party games?  That wasn't really the case for GameCube which didn't get MGS or GTA.  It got better multi-platform releases than Wii, but that's not saying much.

Gonna have to agree there. The fact that the Gamecube had pretty much the same install base as the Xbox, and we didn't get GTA, is pitiful. I mean, yeah let's try to get 3rd party support....but we can't rely on them (outside Japanese 3rd parties). We're going to need to have more software diversification outside of the core franchises so that we're self-sustaining.


If Wii was capable of outputting 720P then it sure as hell would've got more ports from PS360.

Gamecube was in a unique situation. Oh, and MGS did turn up on GC (sort of).



GianCarmen on 27 December 2009

I see the next console going HD, and also something truly unique that separates itself from Sony and Microsoft. That where I believe Nintendo will go next. The vitality sensor might be that next step. They want the player to feel the game. I cant wait to see where they go next.



dahuman on 27 December 2009

There is noway in hell that Nintendo's next console won't at least do 720P, they are not idiots.



BrandonM on 28 December 2009

HDVR glasses > HD

Head tracking FTW!!!



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vonboysp on 28 December 2009

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