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c0rd on 21 December 2009
ioi said:
Should du just under 200k next week and should get to around 2m before any budget releases or international versions.

And in a way I have to agree with the "system seller" thing on the surface. While FF XIII added maybe 150k new PS3s this week, the effect will be short-lived.

On the other hand though, maybe 1m PS3s have been sold in the last couple of years to Final Fantasy fans in anticipation for FF XIII so it definitely is a system seller, just that the sales pattern is different to many other games and harder to spot immediately in that it sold systems prior to release and in the first week of release, not for months afterwards (like NSMB Wii will, or like Brain Training etc did)...

Yeah, I agree with this. It's unreasonable to expect an established franchise like FF to drive sales after its release, because nearly all the people it will sell systems to, will do so early (either on or before the week of release). Its system-selling power is tied to its small legs.

On the other hand, titles that sell well over time like the Wii series, or break out hits like MH will sell consoles over a long period of time. For example, it's possible the next MH (say, next gen) will see a pattern closer to FF.



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Demotruk on 21 December 2009
c0rd said:

Yeah, I agree with this. It's unreasonable to expect an established franchise like FF to drive sales after its release, because nearly all the people it will sell systems to, will do so early (either on or before the week of release). Its system-selling power is tied to its small legs.

On the other hand, titles that sell well over time like the Wii series, or break out hits like MH will sell consoles over a long period of time. For example, it's possible the next MH (say, next gen) will see a pattern closer to FF.

Halo 3 and GTA IV probably had the same effect to a lesser extent. The Wii was also probably selling on the 'promise' of motion control games (much of which hasn't yet turned up, how many people were looking forward to a 1:1 lightsaber game?) in the same way PS3 sold on the 'promise' of FFXIII.



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jarrod on 21 December 2009
Demotruk said:
invetedlotus123 said:
DQ X is promised to be to DQ what FF VII was to FF, the rise of the series as a WW hit. And sure, DQ is just getting stronger in western market with the years.

They say that about every edition of every major Japan centric game. They said it about DQIX: "Square Enix has said that it hopes to bolster the franchise's worldwide appeal with DQIX, giving the game a more action-oriented premise than previous games in the series."(gamespot). They said it about Monster Hunter on PSP (there were even ads here with "the game that's taken Japan by storm").

 

Maybe they'll manage it, but it's not a unique ambition/promise.

I'm pretty sure at least part of DQIX/X and MH3 coming to Nintendo systems had to do with the promised Nintendo push/promotion in western markets.  It is a bit like FFVII in that sense, which Sony pushed directly.

Nintendo's been hugely successful with Layton, so I'm eager to see what they do with DQ and MH.



Raze on 21 December 2009

Just looking at the numbers from previous systems, and the difference in install base, I'm thinking 185k in Japan for 2nd week FF13 sales.



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gurglesletch on 21 December 2009

Very impressive but expected.




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riecsou on 21 December 2009

Final Fantasy XIII is a SYSTEM SELLER, and the 245k PS sold had little to do with Holiday Boost. In case people are forgetting when Advent Children Complete got out with the FF XIII demo, PS3 sales in Japan saw a 288% boost sale in Japan (16.7k the week before the Demo got released and 62.5k the week the demo got released) And that was no PS3 slim. Same thing happen again: 75k the week before the game releases and 245k the week the game releases.



outlawauron on 21 December 2009
coolbeans said:
That's first week I take it?

Why yes it is.

 

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No he isn't. I'm not even sure if he's played them all.



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outlawauron on 21 December 2009
coolbeans said:
outlawauron said:
coolbeans said:
That's first week I take it?

Why yes it is.

 

@ Xoj

No he isn't. I'm not even sure if he's played them all.

Ahh okay, I heard about it hitting over 1 mil first day so I just thought that was confirming it.  Great sales either way though

Yeah, this is the official word from Famitsu/Enterbrain.



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mega-chris on 21 December 2009

lol.. i would laugh so hard if it was at 999,999.. but if it hit 1,000,000 i would celebrate so hard!



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NoCtiS_NoX on 21 December 2009

Wow! people can't just be happy about the sales of the PS3 so you guys think people in Japan just mindlessly bought a lot of PS3 last week, My god! It's a freaking system seller no matter how you guys spin it. Damn! People really love to spin a lot of things just to downplay the success of the PS3.