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Nik24 on 18 December 2009
Sidious said:

I don't understand Square Enix from a business standpoint.  I understand they made timed exclusives for the Xbox 360 because Microsoft gave them money to help fund most of the game and release them it on their system first but why did Square Enix stick with Sony for their biggest franchise?

They had to probably waste who knows how long just figuring out the new system and making new tools for it when they could have easily been up to speed immediately on the Wii.  They spent money like it was water when they could have had half the people working on it and finished it in half the time for the Wii.  The main Final Fantasy games practically sell themselves so Square Enix could have made more profit with the Wii. 

So why from a business standpoint would they stick with Sony?  It can't possibly be because they wanted to push hardware boundaries because the last main game was on the weakest console of last generation.  Also the last Dragon Quest game was on DS so it shows they seem to be more than willing to put their big games on less powerful systems.  It's also not a shooter game so it's not like the Wii would be at a disadvantage when it comes to sales.

So why did they do it?  Does Square Enix hate money or is money second to them compared to loyalty?  Who are we kidding, they dumped Nintendo without a second though before.  Any ideas anyone?  Why didnt the console that is kicking the Playstation 3 in hardware and software sales get the game it should have rightfully gotten?

Well it's their first game for PS3 like mentioned above...



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nordlead on 18 December 2009

Because FFXIII was started before Square-Enix knew how the market would take shape. They bet big on Sony because all the analysts thought the PS3 would sell better than the PS2 and the Wii would sell worse than the GC. Yes, developing on Wii would make a lot more sense for a lot of the big Japanese devs, but they really bet on the wrong system, and for a long time denied that the Wii is a viable platform for big blockbuster games mostly out of their own stubbornness.

besides, you really picked a bad example of a company as FFXIII is the only game square enix has made for the PS3 so far. Versus will make its way out eventually, but DQX (which is arguably bigger) is going to the Wii, and the Wii has a lot of other games like Dragon Quest Swords and FF:CC.




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nordlead on 18 December 2009
hunter_alien said:
Well untill FFXIII they didnt release any PS3 games... and judging by the sales of FFCC:CB I think they are happy that they released the game on a Sony and not Nintendo platform

FFCC:CB is a poor example for comparison to determine sales of one of the biggest JRPGs. FFCC isn't even really an RPG, as people are saying it is closer to Zelda than a mainline FF. I know, you really want to knock on Nintendo sales, but let's try to be realistic.




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badgenome on 18 December 2009
V-r0cK said:
Munkeh111 said:
@ badgenome, yeah, we have just been bombarded with them. I am looking at my PS3 collection and I can see literally 1 SE game, isn't that amazing (and that is Batman which is only SE because they bought Eidos, and it even still bears the Eidos brand)

Arent you forgetting FFVII & VIII etc.. all those PS1 Square classics lol...Square's sufficating us man!

Classics, my balls. I want Front Mission! Chrono Cross! Bushido Blade! Brave Fencer Musashi!



psrock on 18 December 2009
nordlead said:
Because FFXIII was started before Square-Enix knew how the market would take shape. They bet big on Sony because all the analysts thought the PS3 would sell better than the PS2 and the Wii would sell worse than the GC. Yes, developing on Wii would make a lot more sense for a lot of the big Japanese devs, but they really bet on the wrong system, and for a long time denied that the Wii is a viable platform for big blockbuster games mostly out of their own stubbornness.

besides, you really picked a bad example of a company as FFXIII is the only game square enix has made for the PS3 so far. Versus will make its way out eventually, but DQX (which is arguably bigger) is going to the Wii, and the Wii has a lot of other games like Dragon Quest Swords and FF:CC.

I think DQX should be on the DS, so far the Wii has shown us it cannot sell has the handhelds, look at MH3 numbers. And, no FFXIII is bigger than DQ, JAPAN is not the world.

 

 



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V-r0cK on 18 December 2009
badgenome said:
V-r0cK said:
Munkeh111 said:
@ badgenome, yeah, we have just been bombarded with them. I am looking at my PS3 collection and I can see literally 1 SE game, isn't that amazing (and that is Batman which is only SE because they bought Eidos, and it even still bears the Eidos brand)

Arent you forgetting FFVII & VIII etc.. all those PS1 Square classics lol...Square's sufficating us man!

Classics, my balls. I want Front Mission! Chrono Cross! Bushido Blade! Brave Fencer Musashi!

What? your balls are classic? how old are you?? lol jk... well Square is bringing Vagrant Story so in time im sure all the games you listed will come soon enough =)



omgsamsungcode on 18 December 2009

this is a joke thread dude



ps3_jrpg_gamer on 18 December 2009

Money is the real answer sony paid 100 mil for VXIII and MS 20 mil for a timed exclusive(SO4)



V-r0cK on 18 December 2009
omgsamsungcode said:
this is a joke thread dude

To us yes, to the opener....well check his history and you can decide if he's joking or not lol



jarrod on 18 December 2009
psrock said:
nordlead said:
Because FFXIII was started before Square-Enix knew how the market would take shape. They bet big on Sony because all the analysts thought the PS3 would sell better than the PS2 and the Wii would sell worse than the GC. Yes, developing on Wii would make a lot more sense for a lot of the big Japanese devs, but they really bet on the wrong system, and for a long time denied that the Wii is a viable platform for big blockbuster games mostly out of their own stubbornness.

besides, you really picked a bad example of a company as FFXIII is the only game square enix has made for the PS3 so far. Versus will make its way out eventually, but DQX (which is arguably bigger) is going to the Wii, and the Wii has a lot of other games like Dragon Quest Swords and FF:CC.

I think DQX should be on the DS, so far the Wii has shown us it cannot sell has the handhelds, look at MH3 numbers. And, no FFXIII is bigger than DQ, JAPAN is not the world.

 

 

MH3 outsold every PS2 MH.  And actually, DQ Swords on Wii outsold every PS2 DQ spinoff.  I'm not seeing the problem really... I bet DQX outsells DQVIII as well.

FFXIII should've been for PSP.  Then it could've matched PS2 series sales at least...