They already made "New NiGHTS." It was called Journey of Dreams. It sold 270,000 units.

Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
They already made "New NiGHTS." It was called Journey of Dreams. It sold 270,000 units.

Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
pariz said:
Now, that would be great. And they should add a Online component that allows fans to play against each other and manage their own troops. That would be epic. |
As fun as that would be... I think I'd lose my mind from disconnects or people dropping out because they're losing after a 30-60min battle.
I think Nintendo should continue what they're doing, but appearantly do it faster since 3rd parties aren't interested in making good games anymore.
All nintendo has to do is release 100's worth of shovelware and then announce Zelda, Mario and Metroid and they can cash in. Sad but it's the truth. I miss the time when they came out with Mario 64 but then BAM Golden Eye (countless sleepless nights with friends), then BAM Perfect Dark (more countless sleepless nights).
They can just release ANOTHER mario party and people will eat it up. Or another Wii sports and they'll have the casual market by the balls. In essence being on top has hurt ninty a little bit as they are not in a position where they are forced to bring out countless amazing titles. I am by no means saying that all ninty games not called mario, zelda are metroid are crap, as there are lots of cult hits like Masamune and No More Heroes (they haven't gotten the sales I believe they truly deserve). When you look at the 360 and the PS3 you notice that because they are in the bottom, and competing with eachother, they are forced to release countless great games and even new IPs. ME, ME2, Gears of War, Forza3, GT5, Demon's Souls, Infamous, Flower (surprisingly good, I was one of those that laughed at the game at first), Alan Wake, GOW3, WKC, Resonance of Fate, The Last Rebellion, Uncharted 1 and 2, Heavy Rain. Now notice I didn't mention FPS's, multiplats, nor longstanding series.
Ninty needs the fans to seriously do something to push such great series back or new IPs (please not another railshooter, deadspace could have been great...but whyyyy railshooter). They could definitely bring back Donkey Kong Country, Kirby, an UPDATED Megaman, another Castlevania that can at least come close to SOTN, hell even strike a deal with Sega so they can release a Kid Chameleon game (I still think that game was better than any Mario minus the multiplayer of NSMBW).
Please share your thoughts on this.
Make games, not war (that goes for ridiculous fanboys)
I may be the next Maelstorm or not, you be the judge http://videogamesgrow.blogspot.com/ hopefully I can be more of an asset than a fanboy to VGC hehe.


| demonfox13 said: All nintendo has to do is release 100's worth of shovelware and then announce Zelda, Mario and Metroid and they can cash in. Sad but it's the truth. I miss the time when they came out with Mario 64 but then BAM Golden Eye (countless sleepless nights with friends), then BAM Perfect Dark (more countless sleepless nights). They can just release ANOTHER mario party and people will eat it up. Or another Wii sports and they'll have the casual market by the balls. In essence being on top has hurt ninty a little bit as they are not in a position where they are forced to bring out countless amazing titles. I am by no means saying that all ninty games not called mario, zelda are metroid are crap, as there are lots of cult hits like Masamune and No More Heroes (they haven't gotten the sales I believe they truly deserve). When you look at the 360 and the PS3 you notice that because they are in the bottom, and competing with eachother, they are forced to release countless great games and even new IPs. ME, ME2, Gears of War, Forza3, GT5, Demon's Souls, Infamous, Flower (surprisingly good, I was one of those that laughed at the game at first), Alan Wake, GOW3, WKC, Resonance of Fate, The Last Rebellion, Uncharted 1 and 2, Heavy Rain. Now notice I didn't mention FPS's, multiplats, nor longstanding series. Ninty needs the fans to seriously do something to push such great series back or new IPs (please not another railshooter, deadspace could have been great...but whyyyy railshooter). They could definitely bring back Donkey Kong Country, Kirby, an UPDATED Megaman, another Castlevania that can at least come close to SOTN, hell even strike a deal with Sega so they can release a Kid Chameleon game (I still think that game was better than any Mario minus the multiplayer of NSMBW). Please share your thoughts on this. |
That's the thing, though. Those are fabricated memories. There was no such time. Perfect Dark was released three whole years after Goldeneye!
| trestres said: I don't count on Nintendo ever making a new Donkey Kong game anymore. Even though that would be my most anticipated game ever after Zelda Wii, it won't happen. We are currently witnessing a complete and drastic change in Nintendo's development strategies. |
They made Jungle Beat not long ago and even reworked it for Wii, I wouldn't rule out a new sidescrolling DK at some point.
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
That's the thing, though. Those are fabricated memories. There was no such time. Perfect Dark was released three whole years after Goldeneye! |
no, he is refering to how Goldeneye came out over 1 year after Mario 64...

nordlead said:
no, he is refering to how Goldeneye came out over 1 year after Mario 64... |
Exactly. And yes I am well aware that Perfect Dark came out a while after Golden Eye, so there is nothing fabricated at all. Golden Eye came out at a perfect time. Fact is Golden Eye was able to hold up our gatherings at my cousin's house, a few drinks, pop the game in and there we go, for many hours usually around 2 days a week or so depending on schedules. Hell my cous use to even pull out his SNES whenever we were tired of GE (which was rare since it would be about 6 people or so, therefore there were waits), and yes, you guessed it, MK2 and Killer Instinct would be another set of titles we had fun with. Ninty has shown that it can be fun with diverse titles for several people. Before GE it was almost unheard of in an FPS to have that much fun on a console with that many people (actually I don't recall playing one before that with several people in a room, I could be wrong).
These are things PS3 and 360 don't seem to get to this day. PS3 you can have 7 controllers, yet the only true party game that utilizes that is a bomberman game. I would love to see splitscreen multiplayer for 4 people on KZ2 for example. At least 360 did it with Halo, but not much else. For fighting games like SSBB, they could have a SF with 2v2, or battle royale, or another KoF, making it a 3v3, etc. So much potential yet not taken advantage of. This is where Ninty wins hands down but their showing of quality games has been rather lackluster and can do better considering the install base and all the profits they have gotten out of it.
Make games, not war (that goes for ridiculous fanboys)
I may be the next Maelstorm or not, you be the judge http://videogamesgrow.blogspot.com/ hopefully I can be more of an asset than a fanboy to VGC hehe.


demonfox13 said:
Exactly. And yes I am well aware that Perfect Dark came out a while after Golden Eye, so there is nothing fabricated at all. Golden Eye came out at a perfect time. Fact is Golden Eye was able to hold up our gatherings at my cousin's house, a few drinks, pop the game in and there we go, for many hours usually around 2 days a week or so depending on schedules. Hell my cous use to even pull out his SNES whenever we were tired of GE (which was rare since it would be about 6 people or so, therefore there were waits), and yes, you guessed it, MK2 and Killer Instinct would be another set of titles we had fun with. Ninty has shown that it can be fun with diverse titles for several people. Before GE it was almost unheard of in an FPS to have that much fun on a console with that many people (actually I don't recall playing one before that with several people in a room, I could be wrong). These are things PS3 and 360 don't seem to get to this day. PS3 you can have 7 controllers, yet the only true party game that utilizes that is a bomberman game. I would love to see splitscreen multiplayer for 4 people on KZ2 for example. At least 360 did it with Halo, but not much else. For fighting games like SSBB, they could have a SF with 2v2, or battle royale, or another KoF, making it a 3v3, etc. So much potential yet not taken advantage of. This is where Ninty wins hands down but their showing of quality games has been rather lackluster and can do better considering the install base and all the profits they have gotten out of it. |
You were very poor at conveying your point in your first post, then, because there it sounded like you were saying they put out a lot of great games in a rapid pace. But what you're actually saying is that you want something of the same caliber as Goldenye or Perfect Dark? I played loads of Goldeneye too, but to be honest I've played even more Melee, and would be playing even more Brawl if my copy weren't for my japanese Wii (such a hassle to switch cables everytime I just want a quick Brawl).
demonfox13 said:
Exactly. And yes I am well aware that Perfect Dark came out a while after Golden Eye, so there is nothing fabricated at all. Golden Eye came out at a perfect time. Fact is Golden Eye was able to hold up our gatherings at my cousin's house, a few drinks, pop the game in and there we go, for many hours usually around 2 days a week or so depending on schedules. Hell my cous use to even pull out his SNES whenever we were tired of GE (which was rare since it would be about 6 people or so, therefore there were waits), and yes, you guessed it, MK2 and Killer Instinct would be another set of titles we had fun with. Ninty has shown that it can be fun with diverse titles for several people. Before GE it was almost unheard of in an FPS to have that much fun on a console with that many people (actually I don't recall playing one before that with several people in a room, I could be wrong). These are things PS3 and 360 don't seem to get to this day. PS3 you can have 7 controllers, yet the only true party game that utilizes that is a bomberman game. I would love to see splitscreen multiplayer for 4 people on KZ2 for example. At least 360 did it with Halo, but not much else. For fighting games like SSBB, they could have a SF with 2v2, or battle royale, or another KoF, making it a 3v3, etc. So much potential yet not taken advantage of. This is where Ninty wins hands down but their showing of quality games has been rather lackluster and can do better considering the install base and all the profits they have gotten out of it. |
you know, I wasn't actually agreeing with you. If we look at titles released (published by Nintendo, sold at retail) in America on N64 and Wii, we have 48 titles over 5 years, compared to 33 titles over 3 years. By my calculations, that is a faster release schedule on Wii than N64. Sure there may be a slightly higher quantity of casual titles, but the N64 managed 3 Mario Party games over 2 years (1 each year). By my count there were ~20 "core" games on N64, and ~15 "core" games on Wii that were actually made by Nintendo, which again is on par with with the N64.
So no, Nintendo hasn't abandoned the core gamer, or stopped making good games, or even really needs to make games any faster than they already are. The internet gamers who grew up with video games need to stop being so greedy and realize they used to enjoy games for a much longer period of time. Heck, I still play Mario Strikers Charged, and if I had more people around would actually challenge Goldeneye as most played game. Mario Kart Wii would easily surpass Mario Kart 64 for hours played.
Something tells me the real difference between then and now, is that you were a teen playing games with your friends compared to being an adult and having a much harder time getting friends over to play games.
However, I do agree that there needs to be more good local multiplayer games, as the N64 really was the peak for 4-player local gameplay.

i want a new nintendo IP that can be welcomed into the nintendo family.. yes theirs star fox, Kirby and Kid Icarus.. lets face it everyone wants those including me, but i want something that is completely new as well.