By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Gaming - Representatives of SONY, MICROSOFT, and Wii

Kantor on 14 December 2009
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
binary solo said:
I haven't seen Reggie take any cheap shots lately. And even his bet was done in a fairly gracious way "MW2 is a great game", I'll be playing MW2 for sure (I wonder if he has a 360, or PS3...he's probably a PC purits when it comes to FPS...except for MW Reflex of course).

I think Tretton likes to talk up his own system, and nothing wrong with that. I don't see what's wrong with the Tretton quote Mai has given. Actually if that's the best (worst) you can come up with it's pretty mild.

What I'm looking for is whether any of these company reps are making derogatory comments about the opposition. The 5 minutes on a shelf statement certainly isn't derogatory to the oppositon. Neither is Reggie's bet. Greenberg on the other hand was pretty disparaging about Sony/PS3/GT5 in that latest interview. In my view it was pretty unprofessional and unbecomming of a senior industry exec. I really hope we see less of it as time passes.

Sony's hands got pretty dirty early in this generation, with their attitude to both Wii and 360. But I think they've learned that to promote their machine they don't need to run down the opposition. Being humbled by the consumer in the way Sony has with PS3 was good for SCE's soul.

Nintendo have been pretty constant from what I've seen and they've mostly focussed on their positives in their PR approach from the beginning.

Here's a Tretton-quote for ya.

"I think the PS3 is the Surf 'n Turf, the PS2 is your favorite burger restaurant... [Wii] is a lollipop, and I'm too old for lollipops. And the [Xbox 360] I get sick from once in a while because the cook isn't always reliable."

That's nothing, compared to the crap that Greenberg comes out with.

Reggie doesn't bash the other consoles, either. He just promotes the Wii. Which is, you know, his job.



(Former) Lead Moderator and (Eternal) VGC Detective

Around the Network
Kantor on 14 December 2009
kowenicki said:
kaz balances jack out nicely...

I think Reeves did, but Andrew House is boring. He never says anything, and shows his face once a year for GamesCom.



(Former) Lead Moderator and (Eternal) VGC Detective

binary solo on 14 December 2009
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
binary solo said:
I haven't seen Reggie take any cheap shots lately. And even his bet was done in a fairly gracious way "MW2 is a great game", I'll be playing MW2 for sure (I wonder if he has a 360, or PS3...he's probably a PC purits when it comes to FPS...except for MW Reflex of course).

I think Tretton likes to talk up his own system, and nothing wrong with that. I don't see what's wrong with the Tretton quote Mai has given. Actually if that's the best (worst) you can come up with it's pretty mild.

What I'm looking for is whether any of these company reps are making derogatory comments about the opposition. The 5 minutes on a shelf statement certainly isn't derogatory to the oppositon. Neither is Reggie's bet. Greenberg on the other hand was pretty disparaging about Sony/PS3/GT5 in that latest interview. In my view it was pretty unprofessional and unbecomming of a senior industry exec. I really hope we see less of it as time passes.

Sony's hands got pretty dirty early in this generation, with their attitude to both Wii and 360. But I think they've learned that to promote their machine they don't need to run down the opposition. Being humbled by the consumer in the way Sony has with PS3 was good for SCE's soul.

Nintendo have been pretty constant from what I've seen and they've mostly focussed on their positives in their PR approach from the beginning.

Here's a Tretton-quote for ya.

"I think the PS3 is the Surf 'n Turf, the PS2 is your favorite burger restaurant... [Wii] is a lollipop, and I'm too old for lollipops. And the [Xbox 360] I get sick from once in a while because the cook isn't always reliable."

That's certainly a better example for the purposes of this thread than the 5 mins on a shelf quote. Unprofessional and unbecoming without a doubt. I'd personally be ashamed to have my name next to a quote like that. Let's face it, if anyone on this site wrote that in seriousness they'd get a swift ban.

How old is that quote? It seems to be out of step with the image Tretton has been trying to convey in the more recent interviews of him I've seen/read (not that I've seen / read too many). I'd be very disappointed to hear that this quote was less than a year old, in fact I'd be disappointed if it was a quote from any time in 2008 (though I'm not sure exactly when Tretton decided to start on rehabilitating his and Sony's image). If it's more than 18 months old I say it's pretty poor form to be dredging it up from that long in the past, when I've said myself (and other non-blind fanatics have also acknowledged) that Sony was dirty early in the gen with their PR approach. People are allowed to redeem their public personas and shouldn't be beaten over the head for past indiscretions if they've made a conscious change in their PR approach.

I'm not so naive as to believe Tretton's change (if he really has changed) is anything other than reacting to the public response to past PR strategies. If bashing the opposition had actually worked in Sony's favour they'd still be doing it today.

Edit: Similarly if Nintendo playing "the nice guy" didn't work they'd have brought out the bash too. Personally I'm glad playing nice has worked. I absolutely loathe ads (for any product, including election campaigns) that are "this product / person is shit, therefore buy/vote for me", it puts me right off.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

Majin-Tenshinhan on 14 December 2009
Kantor said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
binary solo said:
I haven't seen Reggie take any cheap shots lately. And even his bet was done in a fairly gracious way "MW2 is a great game", I'll be playing MW2 for sure (I wonder if he has a 360, or PS3...he's probably a PC purits when it comes to FPS...except for MW Reflex of course).

I think Tretton likes to talk up his own system, and nothing wrong with that. I don't see what's wrong with the Tretton quote Mai has given. Actually if that's the best (worst) you can come up with it's pretty mild.

What I'm looking for is whether any of these company reps are making derogatory comments about the opposition. The 5 minutes on a shelf statement certainly isn't derogatory to the oppositon. Neither is Reggie's bet. Greenberg on the other hand was pretty disparaging about Sony/PS3/GT5 in that latest interview. In my view it was pretty unprofessional and unbecomming of a senior industry exec. I really hope we see less of it as time passes.

Sony's hands got pretty dirty early in this generation, with their attitude to both Wii and 360. But I think they've learned that to promote their machine they don't need to run down the opposition. Being humbled by the consumer in the way Sony has with PS3 was good for SCE's soul.

Nintendo have been pretty constant from what I've seen and they've mostly focussed on their positives in their PR approach from the beginning.

Here's a Tretton-quote for ya.

"I think the PS3 is the Surf 'n Turf, the PS2 is your favorite burger restaurant... [Wii] is a lollipop, and I'm too old for lollipops. And the [Xbox 360] I get sick from once in a while because the cook isn't always reliable."

That's nothing, compared to the crap that Greenberg comes out with.

Reggie doesn't bash the other consoles, either. He just promotes the Wii. Which is, you know, his job.

Yeah, uh... I never said Reggie bashes the other consoles. Because I know he doesn't.



Mr Khan on 14 December 2009

Nintendo execs don't make as many bold claims, i think. The only thing they get called on for is the sometimes deceptive decisions they make, mostly relating to localization and hardcore meltdowns.

 

Doesn't mean they're perfect, but in terms of overt arrogance, they've had the least out of the three.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Around the Network
Majin-Tenshinhan on 14 December 2009

@binary solo, I didn't check before I posted it because I didn't get that it mattered when it was from. But now that I do, I suppose it doesn't count because it was from way back in 2007. Sorry.



Kantor on 14 December 2009
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Kantor said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
binary solo said:
I haven't seen Reggie take any cheap shots lately. And even his bet was done in a fairly gracious way "MW2 is a great game", I'll be playing MW2 for sure (I wonder if he has a 360, or PS3...he's probably a PC purits when it comes to FPS...except for MW Reflex of course).

I think Tretton likes to talk up his own system, and nothing wrong with that. I don't see what's wrong with the Tretton quote Mai has given. Actually if that's the best (worst) you can come up with it's pretty mild.

What I'm looking for is whether any of these company reps are making derogatory comments about the opposition. The 5 minutes on a shelf statement certainly isn't derogatory to the oppositon. Neither is Reggie's bet. Greenberg on the other hand was pretty disparaging about Sony/PS3/GT5 in that latest interview. In my view it was pretty unprofessional and unbecomming of a senior industry exec. I really hope we see less of it as time passes.

Sony's hands got pretty dirty early in this generation, with their attitude to both Wii and 360. But I think they've learned that to promote their machine they don't need to run down the opposition. Being humbled by the consumer in the way Sony has with PS3 was good for SCE's soul.

Nintendo have been pretty constant from what I've seen and they've mostly focussed on their positives in their PR approach from the beginning.

Here's a Tretton-quote for ya.

"I think the PS3 is the Surf 'n Turf, the PS2 is your favorite burger restaurant... [Wii] is a lollipop, and I'm too old for lollipops. And the [Xbox 360] I get sick from once in a while because the cook isn't always reliable."

That's nothing, compared to the crap that Greenberg comes out with.

Reggie doesn't bash the other consoles, either. He just promotes the Wii. Which is, you know, his job.

Yeah, uh... I never said Reggie bashes the other consoles. Because I know he doesn't.

I was responding to the OP and other posters with that second line, not you.



(Former) Lead Moderator and (Eternal) VGC Detective

Majin-Tenshinhan on 14 December 2009
Kantor said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
Kantor said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
binary solo said:
I haven't seen Reggie take any cheap shots lately. And even his bet was done in a fairly gracious way "MW2 is a great game", I'll be playing MW2 for sure (I wonder if he has a 360, or PS3...he's probably a PC purits when it comes to FPS...except for MW Reflex of course).

I think Tretton likes to talk up his own system, and nothing wrong with that. I don't see what's wrong with the Tretton quote Mai has given. Actually if that's the best (worst) you can come up with it's pretty mild.

What I'm looking for is whether any of these company reps are making derogatory comments about the opposition. The 5 minutes on a shelf statement certainly isn't derogatory to the oppositon. Neither is Reggie's bet. Greenberg on the other hand was pretty disparaging about Sony/PS3/GT5 in that latest interview. In my view it was pretty unprofessional and unbecomming of a senior industry exec. I really hope we see less of it as time passes.

Sony's hands got pretty dirty early in this generation, with their attitude to both Wii and 360. But I think they've learned that to promote their machine they don't need to run down the opposition. Being humbled by the consumer in the way Sony has with PS3 was good for SCE's soul.

Nintendo have been pretty constant from what I've seen and they've mostly focussed on their positives in their PR approach from the beginning.

Here's a Tretton-quote for ya.

"I think the PS3 is the Surf 'n Turf, the PS2 is your favorite burger restaurant... [Wii] is a lollipop, and I'm too old for lollipops. And the [Xbox 360] I get sick from once in a while because the cook isn't always reliable."

That's nothing, compared to the crap that Greenberg comes out with.

Reggie doesn't bash the other consoles, either. He just promotes the Wii. Which is, you know, his job.

Yeah, uh... I never said Reggie bashes the other consoles. Because I know he doesn't.

I was responding to the OP and other posters with that second line, not you.

Ohh, I thought it was weird. I apologize then.



binary solo on 14 December 2009
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
@binary solo, I didn't check before I posted it because I didn't get that it mattered when it was from. But now that I do, I suppose it doesn't count because it was from way back in 2007. Sorry.

You sir, have shown your good quality.



“The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.” - Bertrand Russell

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace."

Jimi Hendrix

 

dirkd2323 on 14 December 2009

They all can be butt holes and take shots, but jack maybe has learned from some past mistakes, PS3 is comming up . the last thing you want to do is be to cokky , and be wrong or curse yourself, jack knows his product offers the biggest bang for the buck, also the PS3 is really just getting warmed up !! It will be a good 2010.