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NJ5 said:
Dno said:


best quote of the tread... if i am gonna spend my 65 bucks (10 bucks more then last gen almost one hundred freaking dollars!!!!!) on a game it better be fucking awesome.... most games this gen are not but there are some gems.

i cant believe a poster is willing to accept  underpar games so the greedy company can make MORE money out of us.... we are stupid consumers and companies will keep on rapping us because we will still buy crap.

The thing is, most companies are not making money during this gen. They make a lot of money on a few blockbusters but then blow it all on other games which don't make profits.

You can bet that if all games cost less than $50, a lot of studios would not exist today.

 


thats not true. M$ first games in 2005 were 50 bucks each all sold well and made a profit. the 60 dollars is just to get more money out of us because of stores like gamestop and used game sales. they tested gamers to see if we would buy a game for more then 50 bucks and we all fell for it. If companies were worried about sales so much they should of pushed one system that sells world wide and made all the games on that... ( like in the past ps1 ps2, now the wii etc). game devs costs went up thats for sure and people are losing a lot of money thats for sure  but that because devs made games on different consoles and took bribe money from all console markers.  the jp devs are suffering the most because they choose to make games on xbox and not the wii and the ps3. they are suffering because of bad choices not because of a 50 or 60 dollar price tags. if all those RPGS that were only on xbox came out for the pswii the fan base would be much larger in japan and they would not be in this mess.

Also there is another reason companies are going out of business and thats called a recession. (which i would place my money on that being the most inportant factor since you can always make cheap games on DS and psp and now XBL, Wii ware and PSN)

 

Lastly we must not forget that all PC games are still 50 bucks... why is that?



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disolitude said:
Munkeh111 said:
Seece said:
Not really a Gears fan so won't pick this up, more good games the better though!

Wouldn't you prefer Ubisoft only made AC II, Splinter Cell, Rainbow Six and GRAW, rather than all their other games on top of that, as they would be able to devote more resources to those main games. I know that this does not really apply to this case, it is more of a general point, and a way of me putting off my homework


God no. Splinter cell isnt out but i didnt like any of those games. I did enjoy Sonic Unleashed, Ninja Blade and Silent Hill tho. Variety is key. Some people actually have tastes in gaming and dont just play what metacritic tells them to.

Well from Ubi this gen I have enjoyed:

HAWX, Blazing Angels 1 & 2, Rainbow Six Vegas 1 & 2, loved AC I & 2, PoP and I didn't really get into GRAW 2

But still, I think they are wasting resources with games like Lost, Avatar and more. I am not against variety, but I think EA's policy of reducing the number of games they release per year. I will take the yearly FIFAs because they are doing really good work there, but in most cases, a release every 2 years is best for a franchise, and certainly in this market, from a financial perspective, don't make a mid-budget game, they really have to be low budget or big budget

However, this is getting off topic



CGI-Quality said:
Rainbird said:
CGI-Quality said:

Who said I was speaking specifically about graphics? Gameplay can still affected by the multiplatting of any game. Just because you can make a similar game on another console doesn't mean the gameplay won't be affected. Techwise, exclusive games will always be ahead, and that's for obvious reasons.

There are very few games that would be or have been impacted by multiplatting (Heavy Rain, Ninja Gaiden 2 and Bayonetta come to mind). I especially don't see how this should affect Quantum. It was never pushing the PS3 technically in a way that isn't just as doable on the 360.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 has been fitted to the PS3's capabilities, but it's actually less impressive in terms of tech than Ninja Gaiden 2, despite also being hailed as the better game.

Bayonetta was built to greatly utilize the 360, and resulted in a crappy PS3 port, but if it hadn't been built in that way, instead focusing on being multiplat friendly in graphics, the PS3 version could have been much better without sacrificing quality in gameplay. Or they could have gone for the Ninja Gaiden solution, and rebuilt the game for the PS3, to make sure it would come into its own right.

Heavy Rain is a different beast, because it is so heavily dependant on the unified storage of a single blu-ray disc, something that cannot be replicated on the 360. It would not have been what it is today if Sony had not decided to fund the game though, ensuring exclusivity in the process.

Finally, no. Exclusives are not always ahead. Which is more techically impressive, inFamous or Assassin's Creed 2? Modern Warfare 2 or Killzone 2? Both choices have something in common, but they are striving for different things in terms of technology. And is the technologically superior game the best one, not to mention the more innovative one? And does that have anything to do with said technology?

Actually from a tech perspective, inFAMOUS IS technically more impressive. Look at all the things going on in inFAMOUS compared to Assassin's Creed. There aren't all those physics, particle effects and such in Assassin's Creed.

Either way, I side with you on some issues, and differ from you on others. It's been a pleasure for once to debate

Oh I know that inFAMOUS is more technically impressive, but I don't think the physics have a very notable impact on gameplay. I would much prefer that Sucker Punch had sought to maintain the frame rate a bit more, rather than push particle effects. But that's just me

And yes, it was a good run for the money. But just so we are absolutely clear, I love my exclusives.



This game will have better graphics and technology than Gears of War but I don't think it will be more fun than Gears 1 or 2 (and it's what really matters), especially after I saw this video:

Maybe the problem is that the guy sucks at his own game.



Dno said:
NJ5 said:
Dno said:


best quote of the tread... if i am gonna spend my 65 bucks (10 bucks more then last gen almost one hundred freaking dollars!!!!!) on a game it better be fucking awesome.... most games this gen are not but there are some gems.

i cant believe a poster is willing to accept  underpar games so the greedy company can make MORE money out of us.... we are stupid consumers and companies will keep on rapping us because we will still buy crap.

The thing is, most companies are not making money during this gen. They make a lot of money on a few blockbusters but then blow it all on other games which don't make profits.

You can bet that if all games cost less than $50, a lot of studios would not exist today.

 


thats not true. M$ first games in 2005 were 50 bucks each all sold well and made a profit. the 60 dollars is just to get more money out of us because of stores like gamestop and used game sales. they tested gamers to see if we would buy a game for more then 50 bucks and we all fell for it. If companies were worried about sales so much they should of pushed one system that sells world wide and made all the games on that... ( like in the past ps1 ps2, now the wii etc). game devs costs went up thats for sure and people are losing a lot of money thats for sure  but that because devs made games on different consoles and took bribe money from all console markers.  the jp devs are suffering the most because they choose to make games on xbox and not the wii and the ps3. they are suffering because of bad choices not because of a 50 or 60 dollar price tags. if all those RPGS that were only on xbox came out for the pswii the fan base would be much larger in japan and they would not be in this mess.

Also there is another reason companies are going out of business and thats called a recession. (which i would place my money on that being the most inportant factor since you can always make cheap games on DS and psp and now XBL, Wii ware and PSN)

 

Lastly we must not forget that all PC games are still 50 bucks... why is that?

 

Games published by MS are a different matter, as they don't pay licensing fees to themselves. With PC games there are no licensing fees involved, that's why they're cheaper.

EA, Take 2, THQ and now Ubisoft as well aren't making money. Activision-Blizzard is, but judging from their reports it looks like most or all of it comes from Blizzard.

Those are 4 or 5 of the biggest publishers, if not the biggest.

 



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What lie is that MS's first games in 2005 were $50?

They were most definitely $60 as I paid that $60 for my launch titles.



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richardhutnik said:
coolbeans said:
It looked like a meh Gears clone to begin with imo.

Well, when it was supposed to be a PS3 exclusive, it was getting hyped to be a "Gears Killer" or something else along those lines.

erm no. no it wasnt. It was 360 owners sayingt lol a Gera srip off.

 

PS3 owners are like no its like a Devil may cry shooter. So really it should be called a DMC killer not gears.

 

What a stupid post to make. I think you should get you facts right befor posting crap



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Serious_frusting said:
richardhutnik said:
coolbeans said:
It looked like a meh Gears clone to begin with imo.

Well, when it was supposed to be a PS3 exclusive, it was getting hyped to be a "Gears Killer" or something else along those lines.

erm no. no it wasnt. It was 360 owners sayingt lol a Gera srip off.

 

PS3 owners are like no its like a Devil may cry shooter. So really it should be called a DMC killer not gears.

 

What a stupid post to make. I think you should get you facts right befor posting crap

Quantum, a third person action game from Team Tachyon, has long been touted as Sony's equivalent to Gears of War, a comparison that Tecmo themselves even welcomed.



 

Good for 360 owners, tough it still looks mediocre.



outlawauron said:
What lie is that MS's first games in 2005 were $50?

They were most definitely $60 as I paid that $60 for my launch titles.


http://www.joystiq.com/2005/08/24/microsoft-first-party-xbox-360-games-to-retail-for-49-99/

 

please do some googling before you call someone a liar.

also i worked 6am and SOLD the first xboxs in my store i hated it so i remeber clearly what i sold and what i bought.....