You know PC rules, they have the most 90+ games ever man, and you only have to upgrade every two years! Consoles don't have nothing! (This is me joking, not trolling don't take this as trolling)

@Darth

Shio's Gestalt mode would be a Massive PC that would fire Floppy Disks imbued with Massive RAM's of Doom!

But seriously, he said that? XD oh for crying out loud...


@Acevil

Actually you painted a very acurate portrait of what he usually says on threads :P

he did & he sounded very confident about it

@Darth

It's very sad how one can be so blind and so obnoxiously tied to his own points of view that they skew reality completely. Whatever let's him sleep at night, I guess :P

Edit - Ok, I did some research about Shio's claim, because it felt to ridiculous to me. Here's part of a statement that S-E released on november 22, 2008

"Accommodating players in North America, Europe and Japan, FINAL FANTASY XI is the first massively multiplayer online role-playing game capable of simultaneous multiplayer cooperation across three different platforms. Now in its sixth year of service, FINAL FANTASY XI has a robust community of 500,000 subscribers and more than 1.7 million player characters from around the world. The series continues to evolve and expand, offering newcomers and fans alike an immersive, engrossing and engaging universe to traverse, defend and explore."

Now, in 2008 they had at most 1.7 million player characters, spanning 500k subscribers. So, unless FFXI managed to get a hold of the same number of subscribers that WoW has now in a little over 12 months time, FFIX is 9M users away from the most succesful Final Fantasy ever, FFVII

http://forums.ffxiclopedia.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16794

If you people need me, i'll be on a corner of my room laughing my guts out xD

FF XI probably made more money than any non-online FF or at least the same

Or S-E wouldn't make another MMO...

@inventedlotus123

It could probably have made them a lot of money, that's true. But to actually claim that it was the most succesful Final Fantasy game, that's just ridiculous.

Your logic has a basic flaw about it, if they had indeed made more money than any other non-online FF, then why did they pour all of their resources to make FFXIII and the Fabula Nova Crystalis entirely non-online? See your reasoning flaw?

They're just different kinds of publics. I mean, in terms of profit, a MMO generate a reasonable amount of money every year, even having high manutations costs. A "normal" FF have high-budget, and generate monstruos profit in little time of sales in short and middle term.

A MMO makes profit in long-term and a non-online generates profit in short to middle term. And I believe that S-E wants to release another MMO because they just take too long time to release big titles and would use the MMOs incomes too finace the other projects and have both kinds of incomes. 

One question for you all

Would you like to have DLC in FFXIII?

i wouldnt say yes, if the DLC is worth extra money.

Like, if the DLC were something like a extension to the main quest, or adding a new story like GTA DLC it will be great. But if it's something like new clothes or levels, i woudln't even consider it.

Absolutely, Lightning caters to the young emo crowd moreso than Cloud, and popularity in a given culture is determined by the biggest consumers - teenagers. It all depends on how many people play the game over FF7. If there's equal or more FF13 players than FF7 players, then it should be easily decided.