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So would this mean a game like Mass Effect sucks and that gamers who prefer these kinds of games suck?

This would make 3D Dot Game Heroes one of the greatest ever as well right? It parodies quite a number of different things that according to him parodied other things.



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I think this makes malstrom's articles the best kind of articles.
They are over the top and at times make no sense, but are sometimes magical.
Great job!



"proving once again that mal knows nothing about games.

He knows about business, but not about games."

I'll take his word over yours if you're not going to at least try to back that up. He usually tries to back up his claims.

"So would this mean a game like Mass Effect sucks and that gamers who prefer these kinds of games suck?"

He is not implying the latter. He doesn't claim the latter. He's stating why those games don't appeal to the mainstream. Don't add implications to strawman this.



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Soriku said:
Why can't we have serious stories with comedy mixed in like Tales or Persona? And even Zelda: TWW. That's the best way to do things...

NO!

I want Final Fantasy & MEtal Gear Solid type stories

Melodrama, music, betrayal & everything else!

I LOVE Lightning & FF13' premise, a story of two sister planets, cocoon & Pulse



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LordTheNightKnight said:
"proving once again that mal knows nothing about games.

He knows about business, but not about games."

I'll take his word over yours if you're not going to at least try to back that up. He usually tries to back up his claims.

"So would this mean a game like Mass Effect sucks and that gamers who prefer these kinds of games suck?"

He is not implying the latter. He doesn't claim the latter. He's stating why those games don't appeal to the mainstream. Don't add implications to strawman this.

What am I adding?

I am referring to this from the OP.

 

“Serious” games suck. So do the “serious” gamers. Give me crazy goofball fun any day.

Saying that serious gamers also suck doesn't imply that serious gamers suck?

Huh?



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Soriku said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Soriku said:
Why can't we have serious stories with comedy mixed in like Tales or Persona? And even Zelda: TWW. That's the best way to do things...

NO!

I want Final Fantasy & MEtal Gear Solid type stories

Melodrama, music, betrayal & everything else!

I LOVE Lightning & FF13' premise, a story of two sister planets, cocoon & Pulse

lol, didn't I say in an earlier post that serious games aren't necessarily bad? :P I was defending games like FF and MGS and God of War and  whatever...

ergh umm

{HUGS SORIKU}

you'll forgive this innocent doggy face won't you?!

 



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so XENOGEARS sucked....???



Euphoria14 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"proving once again that mal knows nothing about games.

He knows about business, but not about games."

I'll take his word over yours if you're not going to at least try to back that up. He usually tries to back up his claims.

"So would this mean a game like Mass Effect sucks and that gamers who prefer these kinds of games suck?"

He is not implying the latter. He doesn't claim the latter. He's stating why those games don't appeal to the mainstream. Don't add implications to strawman this.

What am I adding?

I am referring to this from the OP.

 

“Serious” games suck. So do the “serious” gamers. Give me crazy goofball fun any day.

Saying that serious gamers also suck doesn't imply that serious gamers suck?

Huh?

Okay, I can see the confusion there. From his other posts, the context shows he means those who think games are all seriousness, need to be huge, expensive, and overblown, and put down any game not meeting those standards, as well as putting down those who like those games.

He doesn't mean those who prefer those games suck. He means those in the serious mindset suck. There is a bit of a difference.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight said:
Euphoria14 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"proving once again that mal knows nothing about games.

He knows about business, but not about games."

I'll take his word over yours if you're not going to at least try to back that up. He usually tries to back up his claims.

"So would this mean a game like Mass Effect sucks and that gamers who prefer these kinds of games suck?"

He is not implying the latter. He doesn't claim the latter. He's stating why those games don't appeal to the mainstream. Don't add implications to strawman this.

What am I adding?

I am referring to this from the OP.

 

“Serious” games suck. So do the “serious” gamers. Give me crazy goofball fun any day.

Saying that serious gamers also suck doesn't imply that serious gamers suck?

Huh?

Okay, I can see the confusion there. From his other posts, the context shows he means those who think games are all seriousness, need to be huge, expensive, and overblown, and put down any game not meeting those standards, as well as putting down those who like those games.

He doesn't mean those who prefer those games suck. He means those in the serious mindset suck. There is a bit of a difference.

Alright, that's quite a difference from how I first interpreted it. Thanks for clearing that up.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
"proving once again that mal knows nothing about games.

He knows about business, but not about games."

I'll take his word over yours if you're not going to at least try to back that up. He usually tries to back up his claims.

"So would this mean a game like Mass Effect sucks and that gamers who prefer these kinds of games suck?"

He is not implying the latter. He doesn't claim the latter. He's stating why those games don't appeal to the mainstream. Don't add implications to strawman this.

Back up my claims?

I would like to know exactly what he is saying so that I can provide a sufficient rebuttal.

First, you said that by spoofing Rambo, he meant being "over the top"

Then, with spoofing Alice in Wonderland, he meant "similar to"

Then, by spoofing Star Wars, he meant to "only include one aspect and make it crazier"

 

I really don't understand what he is saying. The examples aren't very similar enough to derive the meaning from his context, and I really don't think serious games are bad. I really don't think he was making a very serious point because one of his bullets was "strange shower scenes" and the others repeat themselves.

His other bullets though, say serious, emphasis on story..etc.

His bullets for good games are

Not serious
Funny
Quirky
Crazy
No serious story

the only one contra doesn't fit is "no serious story". In fact many titles don't fit any of these criteria. But guess which games don't have any real story? NES games. Arcade Games. Mini games.

"This generation isn’t a “Console War”, it is a war for the soul of gaming. Is gaming going to continue to be the big, bloated “Industry” type games or will it be something else?"

While I agree that arcade games are great, and I wish we could get back to a point where games are more pickup and play, they are not the "soul of the industry", and it doesn't make story games bloated.

So yes, I disagree that the kind of gaming Mal likes is the best kind of game. I wouldn't have disagreed with him had this been solely his opinion, but his little trolling comments about story games being bloated and bad for the industry, or even simply that they suck, are what I feel compelled to disagree with.

Does wii fit spoof actual exercise? Gimme a break.