vlad321 said:
Do you even realize that LIVE isn't the BEST at anything at all? If you do you are just deluding yourself.
Any one thing? No, probably not. Better overall than it's competitors? Yes.
Speaking of ignorance, I can't help but laugh at you thinking LIVE has less lag than PC games. You either know nothing or you just are one of the mos ignornat people I have seen when it comes to gaming who pretends to know something. I usually get less than 50ms lag in my games, wish there was any measure in our 360 other than bars to compare, but apparently if you go by MW2, full bars means you can have up to 200ms, talk about ignorant people on the 360s.
Reading comprehension has always been an issue for you, I should have expected this... Your comment referred to when Live first came out. And my statement clearly referenced back then. When you and your family were laughing about Live, it was the best way to play online. Clearly now, it's much less of an issue. But it's good that you can determine a 200ms ping, despite having said in the same sentence that there was no way to compare.
Also I do have a job, and I still don't see why I should take the stick and pay 4 bucks for somethign that doesn't offer anything special, also my friends play on PC and only locally do we use a console. They know better, they aren't about to bend over for MS either. Oh, they also probably have higher paying jobs than you.
$4 is hardly "taking the stick." It's a fee of next to nothing for a good service. If you don't like it, don't pay it. I could wash my own car, but I run it through the carwash instead. Am I taking the stick? Or am I choosing to spend a small amount of money for something I think is valuable.
And ouch, your friends probably earn more than me... You got me good. (Also, it is statistically very unlikely that they do - And I can't imagine them even noticing $4 a month even being worth commenting on if they did)
Also alright the PS3 was behind, but it has caught up, why should someone pay for LIVE now?
It has nearly caught up - there's still a few advantages that Live has. And why shoudl they pay now? Maybe because it was ahead for 2 years, so now 10 million more people in the US have 360's than PS3s? Certainly not worth investing in a PS3 just for PSN.
As for MMOs, you obvioulsy haven't played them enough to understand. ALso look at Guild Wars, that one was free and it did what you wanted. As for inter-game communication, launch your games through Steam, it does inter game chat and voice. But I guess ignorant people like you wouldn't know about that so they rather bend over for other companies and pay for subpar experiences.
You are basing that on absolutely nothing. I played MMORPGs from the days of EQ when they were just being born through to breaking free from WoW last year. I've also played numerous ones in between. Oh good, 1 MMO meets the criteria given. And voice communication through steam? I've tried using voice chat in L4D2 on both PC and 360, and let me tell you, 360 blows it away. Infact, even when we play games on Steam, my friends and I still opt to use Vent.
Infact, I clearly.. so very clearly... stated that it was the implementation of voice chat options that was sub par, not that they didn't exist. It doesn't sound like you've used Live, or else you wouldn't even be discussing this.
Also yes, you can indeed get an older game for 10 bucks. Another way you show your utter ignorance. There are FAR more indie games that come out on the PC than on LIVE, and yes they are all cheap and many are btter than most games that come out at full price, especially the console ones. Also required voice chat for communication is the worst idea ever. I generally turn it off in games like L4D2 because I don't want to listen to idiots when I'm having fun. But I guess 360 owners are fine with all the little retarded children yelling at them, they even count is as a plus and think it's a great thing!
What? I never said you couldn't get good games for $10. But you indicated that amount of content was all that mattered. And by that (faulty) logic, virtually no full price game is worth it.
And great, now you're calling a very useful feature bad, because you've made an excuse to discount its value? When playing an intense game, instant hands-free communication can be the difference between victory and defeat. And you can silence "little retarded children." As with anything useful and valuable, some people abuse and misuse it. But being a PC gamer, surely you realize that this didn't start with voice communication. As someone who started playing on Battle.Net in the early days of StarCraft, I can assure you, annoying people were just as much an issue in the days when communication was all typed.
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