^ No actually in this case its like he's called a loser because he didn't beat the record he set himself, lol

Very good analogy. The only thing is that the Wii IS breaking records.

Which is the same thing you are doing with your OP. This is just a cheap ploy to get VG$, just like this post for calling you out on it.

However, I do agree with you on the whole attention whoring thing aka the thing I called you out on for the thread OP title. This guy just wrote this as an excuse for the website to get more hits. Nothing more, nothing less.

i don't know even know how you can say i'm trying to get more VG$

i've been a member of vgchartz since 2008 and have only made several threads which at most did not even get any attention... mostly mediocre, that i admit but whoring attention, no.

if that is so, i'd constantly post, reply idiotic responses and create more mindless threads

i just happened to run into this website when i googled "console sale"

out of the many news posted praising the gaming industry overall in sales during thanksgiving; this is the only thing that stood out claiming wii failed

besides, gaining VG$ to me is quite frankly useless as i see no actual use for it

XD Awesome.

Put it this way: Nintendo saw their sales dropping, falling away rather precipitously YoY, throughout this year. Reporting that you are over 20% down on hardware sales is not news shareholders want to hear. Sure still being profitable at those sales is a lot better news to shareholders than reporting improving sales while still losing money, so we won't go there. Potentially selling closer to 2007 than 2008, if things keep falling away they way they were. Not only that but PS3 is now kicking our tail on our home turf (PS3's home turf too, but that's beside the point)

So here's the master plan: drop the price, and we still have our 2009 ace in the hole: NSMB Wii. Plus some other great support titles to come out in December. These things combined should see us achieve sales from BF week through to end of December close to, if not equal to, the same sales period in '08. It won't bring us level with total 2008 sales (actually they will be talking FY sales not calendar year, but we'll keep it simple), but it will re-establish the great momentum we had going in to 2009.

In that context being 250K (31%) down means phase 1 of the cunning plan (kicking off the holiday spending frenzy with a great BF week combining the cut price Wii and the recently on market NSMB Wii) didn't come off as Nintendo would have expected.

To describe it as a failure is overstating things. But it would have caused a few furrowed brows in the board room and the realisation that potentially this holiday season won't be nearly as grand as 2008.

I feel another sporting analogy coming on (Rugby being the best sport I'll use that). When you are up 50-10 in the first half, you don't take your foot off the throat and coast for the rest of the game. You go in for the kill and try to reach 100 points without allowing the opposition to score again in the whole game. If you end the game winning 60-45 after being up 50-10 then the opposition comes off the field in a fairly buoyant mood, with the feeling that in the next game they could take you down. But if you go from 50-10 up in the first half, and end the game at 90-15 then the opposition is totally demoralised and they go into the next game expecting more of the same sort of treatment.

Nintendo is right to be concerned at how this holiday season has started. They are entering the second half of the game with a performance that is giving both MS and PS3 a bit of a sniff of catching up (though no chance of over-taking) if they storm into 2010. Right now Sony will be thinking that they might have a chance of PS3 winning the biggest sales week of the year. If PS3 does win in FFXIII week it will be a massive confidence boost for Sony. "Sony's PS3 has the biggest sales week out of all console manufacturers for the whole of 2009", "Sony's winning strategy with PS3" Fortune Magazine cover: "How Sony fought back after being down for the count". Nintendo really don't want that to happen. Winning the last weekend before Christmas is PR gold for a company trying to win back support for its brand. It means the kind of feel good free advertising that competitors really don't want to see. Personally, I think Sony needed a big game release worldwide in FFXIII week for it to have a chance of beating Wii that week, FFXIII in Japan only isn't going to be enough. But the week is going to be a lot closer than Nintendo is going to be comfortable with.

And don't be so quick to say that Wii is still outselling PS2. Do you know what PS2 achieved in the Americas on it's 3rd BF week? 643K. And world wide on that BF week? 1.2 million. And do you know how many million selling weeks PS2 had in it's 3rd holiday sales season? 5. With the peak sales week achieving 1.79 million. That looks a heck of a lot like Wii's 2008 (2nd) holiday season, in fact the similarities are uncanny. Wii has such a huge lead over PS2 that lifetime sales aren't under threat, but it will be interesting to see if, after going through the first 2 and a bit years ahead on an average weekly basis Wii starts the next couple of years behind PS2 on an average weekly basis.

From a business perspective it's not champagne time. From a gamer's perspective it is still fun time.

which I'm pretty sure doesn't mean having profits decline by 30%+

This is Wii's 4th black friday, not third, it was released in 2006 prior to black friday, in 2003, PS2 sold only 19 million, Wii is on its way past that, its already past 15 million after last week

No, PS3's sales last week were boosted by very aggressive bundling, and Wii still beat it handily, PS3 doesn't have the same effect going forward

Oh, interesting, I stand corrected. So Wii's 3rd holiday season was actually slightly lower than PS2's 3rd holiday season. It will be fascinating to see if Wii's 4th holiday season can be better than PS2's 4th. PS2 managed 5 weeks over 1 million in it's 4th holiday season as well as its 3rd. It did it on much lower Americas sales than Wii is likely to achieve for comparable weeks, so on the US BF numbers Wii is looking better. All that remains is to see if Others and Japan can do the business for Wii. Interesting times for numbers junkies.

I detest the phrase "going forward", it's one of the most over-used bits of unnecessary business speak going at the moment but I won't hold it against you.

I guess we'll see whether "bundles" like the Bravia + PS3 + a game and Blu-ray movie with "up to $1100 off" aren't aggressive enough. We don't know Sony's marketing strategy for the remaining weeks of the year, but if they bring a different bundle or 2 each week then I suspect PS3 has plenty of candy in the jar to attract the punters. Perhaps next there will be a SonyEricsson mobile phone + PS3 +... deal. I'm not saying these bundles will be effective, I'm just saying Sony has marketing options that perhaps you haven't considered.

Hi guys,

I came from the future to notify you that the Wii is still dooming in 2 years.