Id give you a standing O right now but I cant be bothered with it.

"Sorry, couldn't help it, with all the "3rd party Anti-Wii Conspiracy" talk."

We aren't claiming this is a conspiracy. That's just a strawman. We're talking about a bunch of people who are stuck in a mindset.

And only ONE of those is from a Western company. That is another issue on its own.

youre better than Jack Tretton

This amuses me.

Either this company is totally in denial about the quality of the software they produce and doesn't see themselves as contributing to Wii's shovelware problem or they think we're silly enough not to notice. I mean this press release is tantamount to saying, well the Wii consumers have figured us out so we are going to head on over there where the consumers may not yet have realised how crap our software is and we might still have a chance to dupe a few hundred thousand of them.

I like to think of this movement as the Blue Ocean strategy for shovelware developers. They are sick of having to compete in the red ocean of shovelware on the Wii, so they are heading to clearer waters. Bon Voyage!

Of course.  You have to ask yourself if its they who are stuck, or if its you, though.  That's my point.

What I see here, on the forums, are a "bunch of people who are stuck in a mindset", just as your claim the publishers/devs are.  Seriously consider that for a moment, and your foresight may become much clearer, with regards to the Wii, and its future -- and perhaps more importantly, future console generations.

Is it that 3rd parties aren't pushing Wii software hard enough, or is it that the Wii targets casual/kids ("blue ocean"), and nothing more, which is what the 3rd parties are actually struggling with?

I agree that 3rd parties should be putting more effort into making quality casual games for the Wii.  They have yet to learn that "1/4th" the price of a HD console game makes... basically garbage, unless you're really lucky with some tiny, nubile developer (who hasn't moved on, to wanting a bigger budget, yet), and that even casuals can "smell garbage".  They should avoid making traditional demographic games for the Wii like the plague, however.  They will never succeed, unless the brand is already grossly popular (i.e. CoD, or Madden -- in other words, its a known commodity to the casual audience), and even then, only so much.  New "hardcore" IPs on the Wii... will never work outside of Japan, where the casual and hardcore markets crossover much, much more -- even there its a risk, because Japan just isn't all that big.

If EA, Ubisoft, etc. made only a couple casual Wii games each quarter, they'd be doing much better (assuming they were big projects).  The "1/4th budget" BS will only produce profit once in a blue moon -- they need to stop relying on the assumption that "the Wii is cheap".  1/2 HD budget... sure, maybe.  1/4th?  Makes crap.

^No its the third parties, I bring as an example Rabbids go home, no advertising or marketing, and a lot of people don't even know its out yet.

Or Dead Space, instead of making a full fledged shooter, they make it on rails and then whine when people don't buy it

Rabbids is an example that fits within the "low budget == no sales" category.

DS:E is the way it is, because looking that good, on the Wii, isn't possible without limiting the scope of what the player can do at any one time.  A cruddy-looking open shooter wouldn't have done better, and honestly, the demographics (or lack thereof) are what really killed it.  DS:E is a good game, for what it is.  Its way better looking than RE:4 Wii (which is actually quite linear, itself), whether you want to believe it, or not.  They paid the rail shooter price, for the visual benefits.  Another RE:4 wouldn't have gone any further.

Well that's the third parties fault for not advertising it, Ubisoft can afford the budget for advertising the game, the fact that they didn't put money aside for it, proves they are either stupid or they have the wrong mindset.

Then why did RE4 sell over a million, why did Metroid prime and two call of Duty's sell over a million?  Off rail games can sell on Wii, and you can downgrade the graphics if you need to