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This is terrible news. I was really looking forward to an avalanche of shovelware from third party developers in 2010 but now it looks like it will be a slow trickle.

Good news for the PS3 and 360 that all these shovelware companies will be turning their sights on the HD market.



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You know what? I don't give a crap anymore. Let every third party abandon Wii completely, I no longer care. The Wii would still sell like gangbusters and the third parties will continue to bleed money on their HD projects, and it will be business as usual regardless..

I'm convinced that Nintendo could NEVER make a console that third parties support, no matter how powerful it is, how many sales it has, or how many Nintendo games are on it.. Why? Because they simply don't want to compete with Nintendo. Good riddance I say. Their efforts have for the most part, been half assed on the Wii, so if it came down to a choice, I'd rather their shoddy efforts not be there in the first place and dilute the Wii library. I survived on N64 with mainly Nintendo games, I can sure as hell do it on the Wii. If third parties cry about Wii, I say, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.



lol... only in this industry is this fine.



I wonder... all the rabid fanboys and 3rd party developers that badmouth the Wii and its library of shovelware... will they now start hating on their beloved PS3s and 360s too? 'Cos these kind of games are leaving the Wii, but the avalanche of crap is now headed towards the HD twins. XD



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letsdance said:
What is this? 3 or 4 developers in a week? But I thought it was HD gaming....

Back when companies were burning money by the tens of millions making games for the HD twins and a few cheap titles for the Wii, it seemed obvious that their problem was that they weren't making games for the market-leading platform.

Now that they're burning money by the tens of millions making games for the HD twins and a few cheap titles for the Wii...

Wait... nothing has changed here.



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Chrizum said:
It's pretty funny that the developer says crap doesn't sell on Wii anymore, and they're moving on to the HD consoles. This means:

1) On Wii, you can only make shovelware
2) On HD consoles, shovelware will be more succesful than on Wii
3) The developer can only make shovelware

Basically, this particular developer will be bankrupt within 2 years.

Yeah, it's really the line of thinking being widespread that's the problem more than one studio.

SaviorX said:
So let me get this straight:

You flood the market with casual games, in the meantime not making any of the hardcore ones you claim don't sell.

Then, after you destroy the market you constantly reused and recycled over and over again, you go to work somewhere else, effectively leaving the console you were "supporting" worse than it started off. Pretty much passive aggressive destruction.

.................
I'm just dumbfounded by this.

I was agreeing with him on what was wrong with this current market, but then my straight lips turned downward at the line where he said they are leaving the console. That's like throwing paint all over your handicapped grandmas kitchen, and then leaving her to clean it. You leave a big mess, then turn your back.

This is the nail in that "Wii hardcore sales coffin". The evidence has shown that these companies that are leaving the Wii have officially destroyed the majority of the casual market on that console, proving that they did not make enough games that were {hard/core} to strike balance.

Can't say I didn't see this coming though, I called it a few months back:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=80763
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=86467

 Yeah, so did Maelstrom. Really, I am honestly running out of other reasons developers are doing this than deliberate sabotage. There still might be other reasons, but it's looking more likely it's they are trying to make the Wii fail.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

That is why I say nintendo use their loads of cash to buy up some more devs. Then we'll see some more quality titles.



famousringo said:
letsdance said:
What is this? 3 or 4 developers in a week? But I thought it was HD gaming....

Back when companies were burning money by the tens of millions making games for the HD twins and a few cheap titles for the Wii, it seemed obvious that their problem was that they weren't making games for the market-leading platform.

Now that they're burning money by the tens of millions making games for the HD twins and a few cheap titles for the Wii...

Wait... nothing has changed here.

that is lawl funny.



lol. Poor Natal's just going to get swamped with shovelware, isn't it? PSmote probably would too if it wasn't so obviously doomed to failure.



"That is why I say nintendo use their loads of cash to buy up some more devs. Then we'll see some more quality titles."

Then the other developers would just say that being part of Nintendo made those games hits.

Sad to say, but moneyhatting might be the only way to get support quickly. These stubborn developers will go bankrupt before they acknowledge by themselves that making AAA games for the Wii can succeed as well as the other systems.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs