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What I mean is this:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/wii-market-damaged-by-sub-standard-software

Lightning Fish Games CEO Simon Prytherch has told GamesIndustry.biz that he believes the Wii market's issues this year have partly been the result of poor quality games that flooded the market, leaving consumers who had bad experiences to spend money only on the key franchises.

"I don't think you can ever write Nintendo off, but the Wii market - from a third party software developer and publisher perspective - is over-saturated with product," he explained. "Consumers have been damaged by a lot of sub-standard software, so now they only trust big Nintendo brands.

"So going forward we're moving onto other platforms, and we always have been over the course of the company. But in this coming year we're definitely going to be doing PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 titles," he added.

While the company's first release - Ubisoft-published NewU for the Wii - may have suffered in that market, he does see a strong future for motion-based games in 2010, with the new hardware from Microsoft and Sony being released... but only as long as the right games are developed.

"The short answer is that they'll have a huge impact," he said. "The longer answer is that they'll only have a huge impact once people start designing specifically for those controllers. The first-person shooters and driving games - they've already got a really good controller that people are really happy with as a hardcore audience.

"There will be totally new genres that will be developed for those controllers, and it would be foolish of me to try and predict what they'll be - but I'd say they do involve a lot more characterisation and story, and a lot more social interaction.

"If you're talking about something like Natal, where you're using your whole body to control something as opposed to just your thumbs, then it's a whole different way of looking at things. You've got to look at people's fatigue levels, and not keep them jumping around for hours on end... you need to give them rest periods."

The full interview with Prytherch, in which he also outlines his views on where the UK industry can play a crucial role in the global business, is available now.

The bolded part is what I'm calling on. Nintendo isn't trusted by name. It's trusted by making games up to standards. But even they can fall victim to that, as Wii Music sold well, but didn't move hardware.

The solution isn't to just abandon the market to a more expensive and competative one (you kind of need millions of dollars more to make a hit game on those systems). The solution is, well, what I put in the thread title.

Monster Hunter 3 is the top selling third party game in Japan on a current home system. This is after the market started shrinking in favor of handhelds, but it was still a hit. It had everything going for it that it would have had on the HD systems, save for lower development costs. By everything these people are saying, that should not have happened. But it did. They did what they would have done on the HD system games, and lo and behold, people responded to it.

These "We didnt' make a real effort, so now we won't try at all" people just make me shake my head.



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So they create a lot of shovelware on a system and over-saturate and ruin the market's sales, and then they abandon it.

The Nintendo love is strong in here.

I have one question, who the hell does business planning for these third party companies?

I happen to be graduating from UCSD in a few months with a degree in Management Science and I want to get into business planning. I'd love to go in there and crack a few heads open and start practicing "good" business planning. Not the kind that runs your company into a damn rut because of horrible game making decisions.

I need a company to train me, like Nintendo.



I wouldn't sweat it too much. If this...

...is what Wii owners are going to be missing out on, you should be thankful they're moving on to new ventures. 



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Onyxmeth said:

I wouldn't sweat it too much. If this...

...is what Wii owners are going to be missing out on, you should be thankful they're moving on to new ventures. 

I can't believe this project failed them.

Oh well, plenty of other bandwagons that they haven't jumped onto yet.



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Well when it costs 10 million$ to develop a game the market does tend to be less saturated by shovelware..



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

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WOW!!!!!!!!



 

   

Speaking of, My Shape is out now, with the Wii motion camera included. The serious level of fizzle from the lack of info on the release makes me think that Wii motion camera won't be a hit.



It seems the unofficial slogan for third party developers is:
"We make quality only for non-Nintendo systems!"

Then they wonder why they cannot sell on Nintendo systems.

Mike from Morgantown



      


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option A: the wii with less then 50% market share (which over this year was shrinking) with a fan base they don't understand how to develop games for.

option B: the HD twins with over 50% market share + a potential PC port and a market they understand.

complain all you want but that wave a 3rd party support everyone was clamoring about a year or two ago isn't coming.



Onyxmeth said:

I wouldn't sweat it too much. If this...

...is what Wii owners are going to be missing out on, you should be thankful they're moving on to new ventures. 

Heh. I've never heard of, or seen that game.