Why would you include 2005? Fiscal 2005 ended september 30th 2005, 360 was released in November, and in the discussions and analysis section of the 2006 report, it mentions the 360 development costs there. I don't think they reported any 360 costs before fiscal 2006. Even if you put that together, it comes to 3 billion, you know 2008 and 2009s are positive right? They reported profit.

And I thought it didn't include anything about the warranty since I couldn't find anything about it. Doesn't mean it isn't already in there though.

Though now that I think about it, it's not like they would need to report the loss ahead of time, so I guess it didn't make any sense. So EDD is at 3.056 billion loss since 360's release. 2.571 if you don't include fiscal 2005.

@CGI-Quality, probably -.-

Why would you include 2005? Fiscal 2005 ended september 30th 2005, 360 was released in November, and in the discussions and analysis section of the 2006 report, it mentions the 360 development costs there. I don't think they reported any 360 costs before fiscal 2006. Even if you put that together, it comes to 3 billion, you know 2008 and 2009s are positive right? They reported profit.

And I thought it didn't include anything about the warranty since I couldn't find anything about it. Doesn't mean it isn't already in there though.

Though now that I think about it, it's not like they would need to report the loss ahead of time, so I guess it didn't make any sense. So EDD is at 3.056 billion loss since 360's release. 2.571 if you don't include fiscal 2005.

@CGI-Quality, probably -.-

I think you need to get a new calculator.  When I add 2006 - 2009 I get a loss of 3.2 billion not 2.571 billion.  And yes, I understand what a profit is.

so 2.57 - Zune losses for 4 years (BIG! Would be very surprised if this is less than 1 billion) - Windows Mobile losses (don't know how big though) +/- Mac Office (tiny profit or loss)

besides that MS reported a 312 million profit in the EDD for the past 3 months. (Q1 2010) 
And the next 3 months gonna be good as well, because of Forza 3, Halo ODST as first party titles
and Assassins Creed II, Modern Warfare 2, Left 4 Dead 2 and GTA IV DLC pack as 3rd party titles.

And Xbox Live fees probably saw a boost as well, because of MW II and the new update.

Alright, let's take this slowly then. 1.339 + 1.898 = 3.237

Then 3.237 - .497 - .169 = 2.571

If you want to include 2005 (which isn't right anyways) 2.571 + .485 = 3.056

You are doing something wrong. Mostly seems like you didn't account for profit.

As I stated above the loss is 3.2 billion since 2006.  I know this has been discussed before, the EDD includes all MS Office, MS Vista, MS Windows 7, and Windows XP software sold at retail.  It also includes MS Games for Windows sales.  The truth is we will never really know how much money the Xbox brand makes or loses because the data is lumped together.

Edit: It is a 2.57 billion dollar loss.

Oh good, I'm glad to see a third consecutive year of "PS3 will pass 360 next year" posts. These never get old.

Does it really matter? MS has put a hurt on Sony this generation (though not to the bloody flogging Big N has given everyone). Or really, more accurately, Sony has put a hurt on themselves with a $300 console in its fourth holiday season.

Next year, MS will drop the 360 price, sales will surge, and Sony will counter sometime down the road. If (and it's a big "if") the PS3 passes the 360 in overall sales, it will be so late in the generation that no one outside of fanboy number freaks will give a damn.

The only thing we've really learned this generation is:

1. Well-implemented innovation wins out over everything
2. Launching a console at $400+ is a very, very bad idea