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Avinash_Tyagi on 30 November 2009
steverhcp02 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sorry guys, there are bundles every year yes, but most bundles are not on par with the value that Sony gave its PS3 bundles this year, the rate of sellout of them backs it up, this sales boost is pretty much a one time thing, the other bundles this year won't have this effect, yes the christmas weekend has a chance of getting up to this level, but I don't see it doing 50K plus better Carl, likely it'll be around this weeks level. The reason why NA Sales matter Letsdance, is because sales boosts in Others and Japan won't be able to get it any where near 1 million, you have to see a sizable boost in NA to get up to that. PS3 isn't the leading console Stever, not even close, so you can't say it'll see sales boosts as the leading console, since its not the leading console.

Or it could just be people really want a PS3 now that its $299.

http://blog.mlive.com/manzero/2008/11/black_friday_deals_who_has_the.html

Sorry but you cant blame Sony for bundling "better games" if they have them to bundle. LBP is a year old game. Batman AA ties in with the dark knight to show off the BD feature of the PS3. Infamous and KZ2 are great exclusives one being 10 months old the other being 6 months old.

It could just be people wanted the products more because they see more value in it.

Not to mention we dont even know how many bundles were available to make this argument that it inflated the numbers so much.

Oh and can i also mention that the 360 had MW2 bundle. Please stop.

Bundles are moot. Just face it.


  Nope, MW2 bundle won't have as much effect on 360 due to Halo, as the FPS is well represented on 360, another FPS won't push as much hardware.

 

Not blaming Sony, just pointing out that they succeeeded in inflating sales withtheir bundles, its a good job for them, but it does distort



 

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letsdance on 30 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Actually the poor logic is your's lets dance, the reason it sold so much more in others than in NA in previous years was becuase its sales in NA were so poor, people were going for the 360 instead in NA, but now that's changed, its not a mathematical relationship sales in Others and NA, they won't rise in proportion


keep digging your hole.

America Vs America

124,040 (+22%) 10,315,624
79,069 (+11%) 6,402,695

+ 45k

Others Vs. Others

167,530 (+22%) 12,476,638
115,783 (+9%) 7,279,597

+ 52k

Others is up more than NA is... why wouldn't it be the same in weeks to come?



Carl on 30 November 2009

Sorry



                            

ChrisIsNotSexy on 30 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
steverhcp02 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sorry guys, there are bundles every year yes, but most bundles are not on par with the value that Sony gave its PS3 bundles this year, the rate of sellout of them backs it up, this sales boost is pretty much a one time thing, the other bundles this year won't have this effect, yes the christmas weekend has a chance of getting up to this level, but I don't see it doing 50K plus better Carl, likely it'll be around this weeks level. The reason why NA Sales matter Letsdance, is because sales boosts in Others and Japan won't be able to get it any where near 1 million, you have to see a sizable boost in NA to get up to that. PS3 isn't the leading console Stever, not even close, so you can't say it'll see sales boosts as the leading console, since its not the leading console.

Or it could just be people really want a PS3 now that its $299.

http://blog.mlive.com/manzero/2008/11/black_friday_deals_who_has_the.html

Sorry but you cant blame Sony for bundling "better games" if they have them to bundle. LBP is a year old game. Batman AA ties in with the dark knight to show off the BD feature of the PS3. Infamous and KZ2 are great exclusives one being 10 months old the other being 6 months old.

It could just be people wanted the products more because they see more value in it.

Not to mention we dont even know how many bundles were available to make this argument that it inflated the numbers so much.

Oh and can i also mention that the 360 had MW2 bundle. Please stop.

Bundles are moot. Just face it.


  Nope, MW2 bundle won't have as much effect on 360 due to Halo, as the FPS is well represented on 360, another FPS won't push as much hardware.

 

Not blaming Sony, just pointing out that they succeeeded in inflating sales withtheir bundles, its a good job for them, but it does distort

I agree.

That MW2 bundle wont have too much of an effect on the 360 hardware,only on MW2 sales.

If people want to buy MW2 in the same time with a 360,they buy the bundle,if they just want a 360,they buy a 360.



steverhcp02 on 30 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
steverhcp02 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Sorry guys, there are bundles every year yes, but most bundles are not on par with the value that Sony gave its PS3 bundles this year, the rate of sellout of them backs it up, this sales boost is pretty much a one time thing, the other bundles this year won't have this effect, yes the christmas weekend has a chance of getting up to this level, but I don't see it doing 50K plus better Carl, likely it'll be around this weeks level. The reason why NA Sales matter Letsdance, is because sales boosts in Others and Japan won't be able to get it any where near 1 million, you have to see a sizable boost in NA to get up to that. PS3 isn't the leading console Stever, not even close, so you can't say it'll see sales boosts as the leading console, since its not the leading console.

Or it could just be people really want a PS3 now that its $299.

http://blog.mlive.com/manzero/2008/11/black_friday_deals_who_has_the.html

Sorry but you cant blame Sony for bundling "better games" if they have them to bundle. LBP is a year old game. Batman AA ties in with the dark knight to show off the BD feature of the PS3. Infamous and KZ2 are great exclusives one being 10 months old the other being 6 months old.

It could just be people wanted the products more because they see more value in it.

Not to mention we dont even know how many bundles were available to make this argument that it inflated the numbers so much.

Oh and can i also mention that the 360 had MW2 bundle. Please stop.

Bundles are moot. Just face it.


  Nope, MW2 bundle won't have as much effect on 360 due to Halo, as the FPS is well represented on 360, another FPS won't push as much hardware.

 

Not blaming Sony, just pointing out that they succeeeded in inflating sales withtheir bundles, its a good job for them, but it does distort

Then what is your explanation that the PS3 sold 180k this week in others and last year in the week before BF in others it sold 130k? nearly a 40%  increase YOY and thats BEFORE the inflated holiday sales.

You say yourself it only sold better in others compared to xmas boosting relative to BF statside sales. So can we not extrapolate that if its increased by 40% in others BEFORE holiday rushing...and it did more than double last year the week before xmas compared to this week....should we not expect tp see sales upwards of 380k in others in light of this?

So you see, even when analyzing Others sales independantly we see the PS3 should hit around 400k that week in others?

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letsdance on 30 November 2009

Avi is getting annihilated.

Others has increased more YoY than NA and yet in his mind its not logical that Others will still beat NA in sales....



Burning Typhoon on 30 November 2009

I doubt it would do it this week... And then, I really doubt it would happen for the rest of the year now... It may come close, but, it needed Black Friday in the US for that jump in sales... I doubt that would happen again, but, I'm not sure... Maybe, like I said, it may come close, but, not over the million, not yet.



Avinash_Tyagi on 30 November 2009
letsdance said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Actually the poor logic is your's lets dance, the reason it sold so much more in others than in NA in previous years was becuase its sales in NA were so poor, people were going for the 360 instead in NA, but now that's changed, its not a mathematical relationship sales in Others and NA, they won't rise in proportion


keep digging your hole.

America Vs America

124,040 (+22%) 10,315,624
79,069 (+11%) 6,402,695

+ 45k

Others Vs. Others

167,530 (+22%) 12,476,638
115,783 (+9%) 7,279,597

+ 52k

Others is up more than NA is... why wouldn't it be the same in weeks to come?


  Because we are talking about Sales weeks during the holiday, not about normal weeks, Black Friday is pretty much a NA thing, and the weekend before Christmas is bigger in NA than in Others



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

steverhcp02 on 30 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
letsdance said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Actually the poor logic is your's lets dance, the reason it sold so much more in others than in NA in previous years was becuase its sales in NA were so poor, people were going for the 360 instead in NA, but now that's changed, its not a mathematical relationship sales in Others and NA, they won't rise in proportion


keep digging your hole.

America Vs America

124,040 (+22%) 10,315,624
79,069 (+11%) 6,402,695

+ 45k

Others Vs. Others

167,530 (+22%) 12,476,638
115,783 (+9%) 7,279,597

+ 52k

Others is up more than NA is... why wouldn't it be the same in weeks to come?


  Because we are talking about Sales weeks during the holiday, not about normal weeks, Black Friday is pretty much a NA thing, and the weekend before Christmas is bigger in NA than in Others

Not for Sony it isnt when talking about videogames as it trends better for the PS3. Different markets trend differently for different consoles and Sonys Others market trends better than the states all the time.




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letsdance on 30 November 2009

I dont really care to argue undisbuted facts. Set numbers cant lie.