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It doesn't really matter if FF can do amazing things on the PS3, those feats are but temporary achievements and become dull within a generation's time. The true merit of a game it the parts of it that last forever, what Square has really lost is the ability to make an FF main series game that is anything but a shallow frilly-fabulous fantastical display of "hey, remember Final Fantasy X, well here it is again, just this time slightly different with a different number".



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Eh, the PS3 can keep Final Fantasy if it wants to, as far as I'm concerned. I've played my share of them, and they're pretty much universally dull, repetitive, and easy. (Oh, and then of course there's FFXII, where they take it one step further and let the game play for you!)

Now, if Atlus would only develop the next Shin Megami Tensei game for Wii, then I'd be happy...



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I have to agree with the people that don't care. I mean Final Fantasy started to fall apart with number VII. VIII nearly killed any love I had for the series. IX gave me hope again. I liked X, but X-2 was beyond awful. XI was meh, I mean could you solo in that game beyond level 20? XII tried to be different which I appreciated but it failed in execution. 30 hours in I found myself forcing myself to play that game and I just said screw it and never finished it.

Basically out of the last seven Final Fantasy titles I've only liked two of them. I enjoyed five out of the first six Final Fantasy games. The series is in the toilet and with Sakaguchi at Mistwalker, the likelihood of it coming back is near nil.



omgwtfbbq said:
interesting how many people say "SE have lost their vision, their games all suck, I've played them all and they just keep getting worse". The games just get worse and worse yet people are clearly still buying them. I'm sure you'll be spending the $400 it will cost to buy FFXIII when it's released too, so why would SE care about the drop in quality?

Personally, I never liked the series at all, so I couldn't care less what console it went to, but seriously, if the games keep getting worse and worse then why do you keep buying them?

1.  Hype - It's Final Fantasy, it must be good!

2.  Hope - Final Fantasy used to be awesome.  I know the past ones kind of sucked but this new one will be the next truly awesome Final Fantasy.

3.  Habit - I bought the last half-dozen/dozen, I may as well buy this one.

4.  Like - I like Final Fantasy games despite what others say.


Those are pretty much the four reasons.



Onimusha12 said:
It doesn't really matter if FF can do amazing things on the PS3, those feats are but temporary achievements and become dull within a generation's time. The true merit of a game it the parts of it that last forever, what Square has really lost is the ability to make an FF main series game that is anything but a shallow frilly-fabulous fantastical display of "hey, remember Final Fantasy X, well here it is again, just this time slightly different with a different number".

 

Yeah, that's pretty much hitting the nail on the head.  I use to love FF games but they just keep getting worse and concentrating on the completely wrong things.  I actually tried two different times to like 12 but I just didn't care about the characters.  I really had no reason to want to stick with them for 100 hours.

Actually, just for grins and giggles, the things that suck about XII:

  • You actually don't play the game until about 15 minutes into the game
  • It introduces a zillion characters and takes them away within the first 30  minutes.  By the time I actually got the main character I wasn't sure if I was going to keep him or suddenly control someone else.
  • Speaking of the main character, why is he even there?  He has no reason for being there other than he's a little snot who's just tagging along.
  • The license system sucks beyond belief.  There's no motivation to make characters different.
  • The Gambit system could be so awesome but it takes forever to actually get good gambits that by teh time you get them you just don't care to fiddle with them too much.
  • Did I mention that every character turns out the same?
  • The story is not interesting and the world just feels incredibly bland.
  • You have no real reason to care about any of the characters.  I actually care more about the FFVIII characters.

So yeah, 12 was just a giant pile of poo.  I tried to get into it twice, the first time about 8 hours and the second time about 15 hours.  You may tell me that I didn't play it long enough but if I've played a game for 15 hours and it still hasn't done anything to draw me in then it has massively failed.

As for FFXIII, I'm not expecting any better.  The characters I've seen are carbon copies of previous FF characters, I've heard more about the graphics than any emphasis on story and character, and the delays mean they are more than likely prettying it up and not working on the story.  I want FFXIII to be good, but I think it's just going to be another massive phail (not saying it's going to sell bad, it's just going to be another bad game in the series). 



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Only if FF13 bombs.

For me, the series has changed so much from 6 that I don't care about it anymore.

And hey, Dragon Quest is on the DS.



There is no such thing as a console war. This is the first step to game design.

It's quite unlikely in the near future, since SE has had such tremendous success with the series on Sony products.
Multiplat is also very unlikely, SE likes to make quality games, and making games for 3-4 platforms at once can affect quality. Not to mention how expensive it is, and they're being a bit catious ever since Spirits Within sent them headlong towards bankrupcy.



Mummelmann said:
It's quite unlikely in the near future, since SE has had such tremendous success with the series on Sony products.
Multiplat is also very unlikely, SE likes to make quality games, and making games for 3-4 platforms at once can affect quality. Not to mention how expensive it is, and they're being a bit catious ever since Spirits Within sent them headlong towards bankrupcy.

Actually, moving from the PS3 to the 360 is probably the easiest port of the all the X system to Y system ports. 

I doubt Squeenix would do it, but it's an option.  MGS4 could possibly be another story though...



To the Wii: no. Not unless sales of the other consoles utterly stagnate, as in PS3/360 don't sell another unit after this Christmas and Wii is the only option. FF is Square's flagship series. It's always (or at least since VII) been about setting new standards in technical achievements, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

But as for the next generation, I don't see why not. People talk about Square's "loyalty" to Sony, but what they fail to realize is that for the last two generations, FF games simply haven't been viable on any platform other than Sony's. In the PSX era, the N64 didn't have the storage format needed to handle FFVII-IX. In the last era, the PS2 was so ridiculously dominant that it wasn't worth the bother. Only now, with the 360, is there finally a viable competing system. The Wii isn't, but if Nintendo's next system is technically on par with the competition (and maybe it won't be, given Nintendo's current strategy), there's no reason it shouldn't be a possibility for FFXVI onward.

For the more immediate future, this is how I see it playing out: FFXIII will remain exclusive to the PS3, unless it's a complete sales disaster. In that case, we'll see a 360 port a year or so down the line. FFXIV is very likely already in development, and I've got a hunch it'll be an MMORPG. In that case, it'll be released on PC, PS3, and 360 all within a short period, maybe within a year or a year-and-a-half of XIII. If it is an online game, it's in parallel development by the online team, which means FFXV is probably also already in pre-production. The platform status of that one will be determined by market conditions closer to its release, but if things continue anything like they are now it'll very likely be on both PS3 and 360. If PS3 gets its act together and/or Sony offers a very sweet exclusivity deal, it might remain PS3 exclusive.

There's my prediction: the next 3 games will all make it out this generation, but not on Wii. After that, anything's fair game.



Since people think the FF main series is bombing so much (I agree on this point btw), why would you want it to come to Nintendo? Wont is just continue to bomb on the Nintendo system?