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Bobbuffalo said:
LOL IGN. Now I remember why I stopped reading them even before the wii appeared.

Morons.

A few bad articles coming from a few writers there doesn't mean that the whole site are haters. There's still some good stuff on the site, you just gotta look for it.



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Edouble24 said:
steven787 said:
mrstickball said:
....What does this have to do with Nintendo?

It has to do with Wii because what IGN calls evolution and next-gen is what the Wii already does.

The article tries to spin the reasons why the PS3 and Xbox 360 "lost" the console war into an article about why it's a good thing that Sony and MS have lost so much money this gen, that they have to sell upgrades, "safe games," and delaying titles and can't afford to make new consoles or risky-creative games.

Edit: Besides, the article mentions Wii several times.

That wasn't what the article was saying but if the Wii is already doing this stuff than why should we go onto the next gen? What you said supports the IGN article really. You guys really seem to be looking for Wii bashing when it's not there. This is an article about why 360 and PS3 should stay around longer than the typical 5-6 years. If the article is so stupid why isn't anyone here actually proving their points wrong? The article has very little to do with Wii yet you all seem to think it does. Why is that?

I wasn't disagreeing with the article or saing that it is Wii-bashing.  Mr. Stickball asked a question, and I answered.

My comments only referred to the fact that they spun negatives into positives... which is what the article was about.

Basically: "Sony and MS have lost a lot of money, their solution to the problem is good for gamers."


I agree with that mostly, the "safe games" and "delays" parts being my largest exceptions.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

Edouble24 said:
Soma said:
The article makes a lot of good points.... but 3 years late. Development cost? Game's prices too high? Gaming is not all about graphics? A lot of this issues are precisely the reason Nintendo made the Wii in the first place, but the Wii is not mentioned until the end with phrases like:

"the Wii has proven to be a support system at best for core gamers"

or

"Console war-leading gameplay. Does anyone else want to clock this kid in the head with his own balance board?"

Is it so hard for IGN to give credit to Nintendo for addressing all of those issues even before they knew about them? That's the problem I have with this article, it has good points... but 3 years late.

It's not 3 years late! Game prices being too high will be a huge problem IF we move onto the next generation. Gaming not being all about graphics means that we can use these current consoles for longer, so don't bring on the high powered next gen consoles, because we all want those to be very powerful. This article is NOT about the Wii. It's about 360 and PS3 so all of their points as to why 720 and PS4 shouldn't come so soon are valid, aside the last one.

 

Game prices and development costs is a problem Right Now. Nintendo went with the Wii to reduce that problem. Of course a new console will cost more and I agree is too soon for a Xbox720 or PS4, but Nintendo saw the same problem 3 years ago and acted accordingly.

 

Again, Gaming not being all about graphics was precisely Nintendo slogan a few years ago. They even said:

"We're really now at the point where it's artistry and art direction that makes games stand out, and we don't need another set of consoles to make the most of that kind of talent."

This means they're happy with their current graphisc. Well, again, a lot of people were satisfied with last gen graphics, so Nintendo again took another route.

 

Ok, let's forget about the last point where they're make fun of the Wii, the article has a lot to do with Nintendo even if it's not mentioned, because those points are precisely what Nintendo considered to create the Wii. But why it isn't mentioned? Because in their eyes, the Wii is not a "real" console.



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Well if they mentioned the Wii there would be no point to the article now would there? High development costs is a problem on Wii as well, which is why developers aren't putting many high budget games on the console, because there is a greater chance for failure on Wii than the HD twins with high budget titles (in the minds of developers).

However the article is why Xbox 720 and PS4 should not release. That has nothing to do with Wii. The article just has very little to do with Wii as a console and you guys are looking for things that aren't there. My guess as to why Wii isn't in the article is that they probably want another Wii to come sooner rather than later.



???????.... IGN has lost my respect lately, and if they don't give SH:SM a 9.3 or more they'll lose it all



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"High development costs is a problem on Wii as well, which is why developers aren't putting many high budget games on the console, because there is a greater chance for failure on Wii than the HD twins with high budget titles (in the minds of developers)."

How that's logical, since studios have actually gone under thanks to HD failures, and not Wii failures... it's just not logical. I know you're just stating their mindset. I just think it's an asinine mindset.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
"High development costs is a problem on Wii as well, which is why developers aren't putting many high budget games on the console, because there is a greater chance for failure on Wii than the HD twins with high budget titles (in the minds of developers)."

How that's logical, since studios have actually gone under thanks to HD failures, and not Wii failures... it's just not logical. I know you're just stating their mindset. I just think it's an asinine mindset.

perhaps it is. However plenty of developers have no made money on Wii even on a small budget, so they fear trying their hand with a big budget. I also didn't say it wasn't a problem on the HD twins. What's illogical is to think that high development costs can only effect either the HD twins or Wii, it can effect both. Third parties are scared to take risks on any console these days. Big budgets go to surefire hits and smaller titles end up on Wii and the downloadable services. Some developers take a shot and fail.



It's just that if it was merely high cost=safe game, then the Wii would still get more, as even as soon as Red Steel it showed they could sell. So there's something more than the thought it's magically more of a risk even though they're spending less.

And how that relates to this thread, is that Maelstrom has a theory or two of why that's so.



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IMHO, it's past time for a new console. Bring it on. I want something that can play Dragon Age without having to dumb it down. Give us mouse and keyboard support across all games next gen Microsoft.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Edouble24 said:
Well if they mentioned the Wii there would be no point to the article now would there? High development costs is a problem on Wii as well, which is why developers aren't putting many high budget games on the console, because there is a greater chance for failure on Wii than the HD twins with high budget titles (in the minds of developers).

However the article is why Xbox 720 and PS4 should not release. That has nothing to do with Wii. The article just has very little to do with Wii as a console and you guys are looking for things that aren't there. My guess as to why Wii isn't in the article is that they probably want another Wii to come sooner rather than later.

 

Oh of course they want a Wii HD sooner! They can't stand SD graphics :p

 

Development costs are an issue on every console, but more on the HD Twins.

 

Yes, the article is about the next Xbox and PS3, and maybe you're right; it's not that they hate, mock (like they did in the last point), or don't consider it a gamer console to poor Wii, the reason it's not mentioned.

But I found very laughable that almost all of those points were part of Nintendo's strategy more than 3 years ago. But hey!, maybe they haven't noticed that :p



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