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Carl on 19 November 2009

I never even knew half of them existed ¬_¬

But even so, VC will outsell a number of them, so all is fine by me

As for my turn... No comment



                            

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darthdevidem01 on 19 November 2009
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
ArcticGabe said:
well, the sales still lame though

Go find me 10 other SRPG games that have sold more copies than Valkyria Chronicles.

Go find me 10 other SRPG games that have had a comparable budget, scope and promotion as Valkyria Chronicles.  I can pretty easily find 10 JRPGs on level with or surpassing Last Remnant in those areas.

What was the games budget? And it was only advertised in Japan where it had an anime based on it (Not sure about NA).

But then again... Blue Dragon had an anime too... Look what happened there.

What are most SRPG budgets?  Use some common sense here...

Blue Dragon sold 200k in Japan on a Microsoft console, and outsold every DQ but DQ8 in the west.  That's hardly disappointing.  It's DS sequel sales however... lol!  BOMBA!

Speaking of which, how well does everyone think Valkyria 2 will sell?

No idea how much they usually cost... You tell me.

I think it will do reasonably well in Japan. Western sales... PSP... No comment.

Not much.  You can usually tell by, uh... looking at them, they ususally look last gen.  Or do you think Valkyria was a production in line with stuff like Disgaea, Fire Emblem or Summon Night?  

Obviously it cost more than THEM. But we dont know how much it actually did cost.

Fortunately I wasn't asking what it cost, I was asking if you could name 10 SRPGs with similar production values.

And im still waiting for 10 of them that sold more

I'll even name 11....

1. Final Fantasy Tactics

2. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

3. Final Fantasy Tactics A2

4. Super Robot Taisen Alpha (JP only!)

5. Arc the Lad

6. Arc the Lad II

7. Front Mission (JP only!)

8. Fire Emblem: Monshou no Nazo (JP only!)

10.  Super Robot Taisen Impact (JP only!)

11. Tactics Ogre (JP only!)

 

Your turn. ;)

Final Fantasy doesn't count!!!



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jarrod on 19 November 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
ArcticGabe said:
well, the sales still lame though

Go find me 10 other SRPG games that have sold more copies than Valkyria Chronicles.

Go find me 10 other SRPG games that have had a comparable budget, scope and promotion as Valkyria Chronicles.  I can pretty easily find 10 JRPGs on level with or surpassing Last Remnant in those areas.

What was the games budget? And it was only advertised in Japan where it had an anime based on it (Not sure about NA).

But then again... Blue Dragon had an anime too... Look what happened there.

What are most SRPG budgets?  Use some common sense here...

Blue Dragon sold 200k in Japan on a Microsoft console, and outsold every DQ but DQ8 in the west.  That's hardly disappointing.  It's DS sequel sales however... lol!  BOMBA!

Speaking of which, how well does everyone think Valkyria 2 will sell?

No idea how much they usually cost... You tell me.

I think it will do reasonably well in Japan. Western sales... PSP... No comment.

Not much.  You can usually tell by, uh... looking at them, they ususally look last gen.  Or do you think Valkyria was a production in line with stuff like Disgaea, Fire Emblem or Summon Night?  

Obviously it cost more than THEM. But we dont know how much it actually did cost.

Fortunately I wasn't asking what it cost, I was asking if you could name 10 SRPGs with similar production values.

And im still waiting for 10 of them that sold more

I'll even name 11....

1. Final Fantasy Tactics

2. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

3. Final Fantasy Tactics A2

4. Super Robot Taisen Alpha (JP only!)

5. Arc the Lad

6. Arc the Lad II

7. Front Mission (JP only!)

8. Fire Emblem: Monshou no Nazo (JP only!)

10.  Super Robot Taisen Impact (JP only!)

11. Tactics Ogre (JP only!)

 

Your turn. ;)

Final Fantasy doesn't count!!!

In that case, I guess DQX is guaranteed to be the best selling console JRPG this gen. :P



outlawauron on 19 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
I never even knew half of them existed ¬_¬

But even so, VC will outsell a number of them, so all is fine by me

As for my turn... No comment

I don't believe there are ten more, but games like Final Fantasy Tactics were big budget titles. Nothing like the main Final Fantasy games, but it still had a lengthy development time.



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darthdevidem01 on 19 November 2009
jarrod said:
darthdevidem01 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
ArcticGabe said:
well, the sales still lame though

Go find me 10 other SRPG games that have sold more copies than Valkyria Chronicles.

Go find me 10 other SRPG games that have had a comparable budget, scope and promotion as Valkyria Chronicles.  I can pretty easily find 10 JRPGs on level with or surpassing Last Remnant in those areas.

What was the games budget? And it was only advertised in Japan where it had an anime based on it (Not sure about NA).

But then again... Blue Dragon had an anime too... Look what happened there.

What are most SRPG budgets?  Use some common sense here...

Blue Dragon sold 200k in Japan on a Microsoft console, and outsold every DQ but DQ8 in the west.  That's hardly disappointing.  It's DS sequel sales however... lol!  BOMBA!

Speaking of which, how well does everyone think Valkyria 2 will sell?

No idea how much they usually cost... You tell me.

I think it will do reasonably well in Japan. Western sales... PSP... No comment.

Not much.  You can usually tell by, uh... looking at them, they ususally look last gen.  Or do you think Valkyria was a production in line with stuff like Disgaea, Fire Emblem or Summon Night?  

Obviously it cost more than THEM. But we dont know how much it actually did cost.

Fortunately I wasn't asking what it cost, I was asking if you could name 10 SRPGs with similar production values.

And im still waiting for 10 of them that sold more

I'll even name 11....

1. Final Fantasy Tactics

2. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

3. Final Fantasy Tactics A2

4. Super Robot Taisen Alpha (JP only!)

5. Arc the Lad

6. Arc the Lad II

7. Front Mission (JP only!)

8. Fire Emblem: Monshou no Nazo (JP only!)

10.  Super Robot Taisen Impact (JP only!)

11. Tactics Ogre (JP only!)

 

Your turn. ;)

Final Fantasy doesn't count!!!

In that case, I guess DQX is guaranteed to be the best selling console JRPG this gen. :P

Final Fantasy DOES COUNT if thats the comparison!! ;)



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

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Yakuzaice on 19 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
I never even knew half of them existed ¬_¬

But even so, VC will outsell a number of them, so all is fine by me

As for my turn... No comment

Front Mission next week, and FF tactics A2 the week after.  Though tactics doesn't have others sales.



The Anarchyz on 19 November 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
ArcticGabe said:
well, the sales still lame though

Go find me 10 other SRPG games that have sold more copies than Valkyria Chronicles.

Go find me 10 other SRPG games that have had a comparable budget, scope and promotion as Valkyria Chronicles.  I can pretty easily find 10 JRPGs on level with or surpassing Last Remnant in those areas.

What was the games budget? And it was only advertised in Japan where it had an anime based on it (Not sure about NA).

But then again... Blue Dragon had an anime too... Look what happened there.

What are most SRPG budgets?  Use some common sense here...

Blue Dragon sold 200k in Japan on a Microsoft console, and outsold every DQ but DQ8 in the west.  That's hardly disappointing.  It's DS sequel sales however... lol!  BOMBA!

Speaking of which, how well does everyone think Valkyria 2 will sell?

No idea how much they usually cost... You tell me.

I think it will do reasonably well in Japan. Western sales... PSP... No comment.

Not much.  You can usually tell by, uh... looking at them, they ususally look last gen.  Or do you think Valkyria was a production in line with stuff like Disgaea, Fire Emblem or Summon Night?  

Obviously it cost more than THEM. But we dont know how much it actually did cost.

Fortunately I wasn't asking what it cost, I was asking if you could name 10 SRPGs with similar production values.

And im still waiting for 10 of them that sold more

I'll even name 11....

1. Final Fantasy Tactics

2. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

3. Final Fantasy Tactics A2

4. Super Robot Taisen Alpha (JP only!)

5. Arc the Lad

6. Arc the Lad II

7. Front Mission (JP only!)

8. Fire Emblem: Monshou no Nazo (JP only!)

10.  Super Robot Taisen Impact (JP only!)

11. Tactics Ogre (JP only!)

 

Your turn. ;)

Final Fantasy doesn't count!!!

Exactly, FF: Tactics sold what it sold because it had Final Fantasy in it, it's like Halo Wars, RTS don't sell well on consoles but this one did because it had Halo in it...


So 11 - 3 = 8. Still a good number to argue.



jarrod on 19 November 2009
outlawauron said:
Carl2291 said:
I never even knew half of them existed ¬_¬

But even so, VC will outsell a number of them, so all is fine by me

As for my turn... No comment

I don't believe there are ten more, but games like Final Fantasy Tactics were big budget titles. Nothing like the main Final Fantasy games, but it still had a lengthy development time.

The first one only, yeah.  For the time (meaning in context or in relation to the costs of other games of the day) it's probably comparable to Valkyria (ie: mid tier budget territory).  In absolute sales it's nowhere close, but if we're adjusting for that, shouldn't we also adjust for the larger size of the games market today in the sales figures too?



jarrod on 19 November 2009
The Anarchyz said:
darthdevidem01 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
jarrod said:
Carl2291 said:
ArcticGabe said:
well, the sales still lame though

Go find me 10 other SRPG games that have sold more copies than Valkyria Chronicles.

Go find me 10 other SRPG games that have had a comparable budget, scope and promotion as Valkyria Chronicles.  I can pretty easily find 10 JRPGs on level with or surpassing Last Remnant in those areas.

What was the games budget? And it was only advertised in Japan where it had an anime based on it (Not sure about NA).

But then again... Blue Dragon had an anime too... Look what happened there.

What are most SRPG budgets?  Use some common sense here...

Blue Dragon sold 200k in Japan on a Microsoft console, and outsold every DQ but DQ8 in the west.  That's hardly disappointing.  It's DS sequel sales however... lol!  BOMBA!

Speaking of which, how well does everyone think Valkyria 2 will sell?

No idea how much they usually cost... You tell me.

I think it will do reasonably well in Japan. Western sales... PSP... No comment.

Not much.  You can usually tell by, uh... looking at them, they ususally look last gen.  Or do you think Valkyria was a production in line with stuff like Disgaea, Fire Emblem or Summon Night?  

Obviously it cost more than THEM. But we dont know how much it actually did cost.

Fortunately I wasn't asking what it cost, I was asking if you could name 10 SRPGs with similar production values.

And im still waiting for 10 of them that sold more

I'll even name 11....

1. Final Fantasy Tactics

2. Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

3. Final Fantasy Tactics A2

4. Super Robot Taisen Alpha (JP only!)

5. Arc the Lad

6. Arc the Lad II

7. Front Mission (JP only!)

8. Fire Emblem: Monshou no Nazo (JP only!)

10.  Super Robot Taisen Impact (JP only!)

11. Tactics Ogre (JP only!)

 

Your turn. ;)

Final Fantasy doesn't count!!!

Exactly, FF: Tactics sold what it sold because it had Final Fantasy in it, it's like Halo Wars, RTS don't sell well on consoles but this one did because it had Halo in it...


So 11 - 3 = 8. Still a good number to argue.

In fairness, the SRT and SD Gundam games also are helped by their licenses.  There's other SRPGs that passed Valkyria too though.



outlawauron on 19 November 2009
jarrod said:
outlawauron said:
Carl2291 said:
I never even knew half of them existed ¬_¬

But even so, VC will outsell a number of them, so all is fine by me

As for my turn... No comment

I don't believe there are ten more, but games like Final Fantasy Tactics were big budget titles. Nothing like the main Final Fantasy games, but it still had a lengthy development time.

The first one only, yeah.  For the time (meaning in context or in relation to the costs of other games of the day) it's probably comparable to Valkyria (ie: mid tier budget territory).  In absolute sales it's nowhere close, but if we're adjusting for that, shouldn't we also adjust for the larger size of the games market today in the sales figures too?

What's the point in this comparison if the PS1 userbase if 3x the PS3 userbase?



"We'll toss the dice however they fall,
And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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