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Avinash_Tyagi on 17 November 2009
psrock said:
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ZorroX said:
20M is actually 33% from 60M, not 85%.
2009 - 30M+
2010 - 40M+ and 10M GT5
2011 - 50M+ and 5M GT5
2012 - 60M+ and 2M GT5

I expect GT6 to come only somewhere in 2012.


  PS3 at 60 million?

 

Seriously?

 

Right now its at 26 million, I think 60 million is out of the realm of possibility

If the PSP can sell 60 million, so can the PS3.

The PSP has always had a higher trend line than the PS3

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PSP&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=PS3&reg3=All&weeks=180

The psp will be at 75 million by the time it's done though, so the PS3 will be at 60 million easily/


  That's only if the PS3 can maintain its current sales rate, which it won't even at its current rate it'll be over 2 and a half years to get to 60 million, and it won't keep that pace for that long

It's at $299, I assume you think it will sell worst at $199, you are bad at predicting dude, just terrible.

Its not like its going to be at $199 while the 360 will be at $299, you do realize that MS will probably start price cutting heavily over the next two years, since they can afford it and Sony can't?  360 will probably get below $200 and possibly even $150 before PS3 can, not to mention at that point, people will be anticipating the PS4 and 720, which will also cut into the sales for the PS3 and 360.



 

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Avinash_Tyagi on 17 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
ZorroX said:
20M is actually 33% from 60M, not 85%.
2009 - 30M+
2010 - 40M+ and 10M GT5
2011 - 50M+ and 5M GT5
2012 - 60M+ and 2M GT5

I expect GT6 to come only somewhere in 2012.

PS3 at 60 million?

Seriously?

Right now its at 26 million, I think 60 million is out of the realm of possibility

I just want to ask. Why do you think this?

PS3 sales have increased with every year it has been available. Next year is its biggest and best software lineup. Sales are likely to increase AGAIN.

60 million is very possible by the end of its lifetime.

The increasing sales aren't going to continue forever you know, not to mention next year it'll face much harder price competition from the 360, and the fact is many of its big software titles are shared with the 360, its unlikely that it will be able to more than double its console base at this point

Sony will keep it around for 10 years. It's been out for 3. And sales will VERY likely continue to increase next year with Gran Turismo 5... God of War 3... Final Fantasy 13... Agent... Motion Controller... Wii Ports/Steals... Etc. And we dont even know what Sony have planned for Q3/Q4.

The fact is... I have proof of PS3 sales increasing every year. PS3 has some very high quality and high selling potential software. And Sony say they will use the 10 year plan for it. AND they still have the room for a lot more pricecuts...

Id say 60 Million is pretty much guarenteed.


Sony can keep it around for a century, doesn't mean people will buy it, its the consumer that decides how long a product remains on the market, not the company. You have proof of PS3 sales increasing, so what, that's what happens, sales increase, then they peak and then they decline. No hey don't have as much room for price cuts as you think, because they are losing money on the PS3 hardware at the moment. They have already hinted they don't want to price cut next year

 

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iWarMachine on 17 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
ZorroX said:
20M is actually 33% from 60M, not 85%.
2009 - 30M+
2010 - 40M+ and 10M GT5
2011 - 50M+ and 5M GT5
2012 - 60M+ and 2M GT5

I expect GT6 to come only somewhere in 2012.


  PS3 at 60 million?

 

Seriously?

 

Right now its at 26 million, I think 60 million is out of the realm of possibility

If the PSP can sell 60 million, so can the PS3.

The PSP has always had a higher trend line than the PS3

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PSP&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=PS3&reg3=All&weeks=180

The psp will be at 75 million by the time it's done though, so the PS3 will be at 60 million easily/


  That's only if the PS3 can maintain its current sales rate, which it won't even at its current rate it'll be over 2 and a half years to get to 60 million, and it won't keep that pace for that long

my bet: 60 millions in 2012 easily.

all consoles will sell more than 10M EACH YEAR.... why? because the industry nowadays it's growing faster than ever.



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shams on 17 November 2009

Yeah... PS3 install base 26m, GT5 going to sell 20m? Somehow, I can't see it happening.

Sony should be pleased if it gets anywhere near 10m lifetime IMO - but I think it will top around 7-8m.

There are a lot of racers around these days, its a very saturated market.



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ArcticGabe on 17 November 2009

It will do 1/3 20 million



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psrock on 17 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:

If the PSP can sell 60 million, so can the PS3.

The PSP has always had a higher trend line than the PS3

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PSP&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=PS3&reg3=All&weeks=180

The psp will be at 75 million by the time it's done though, so the PS3 will be at 60 million easily/


  That's only if the PS3 can maintain its current sales rate, which it won't even at its current rate it'll be over 2 and a half years to get to 60 million, and it won't keep that pace for that long

It's at $299, I assume you think it will sell worst at $199, you are bad at predicting dude, just terrible.

Its not like its going to be at $199 while the 360 will be at $299, you do realize that MS will probably start price cutting heavily over the next two years, since they can afford it and Sony can't?  360 will probably get below $200 and possibly even $150 before PS3 can, not to mention at that point, people will be anticipating the PS4 and 720, which will also cut into the sales for the PS3 and 360.

The 360 already sells for $199, and consoles dont kill each other. The PSP still sells even when the DS  destroy it.

FACT : ps3 will sell more next year than this year.

 



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Avinash_Tyagi on 17 November 2009
ZorroX said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
ZorroX said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
ZorroX said:
20M is actually 33% from 60M, not 85%.
2009 - 30M+
2010 - 40M+ and 10M GT5
2011 - 50M+ and 5M GT5
2012 - 60M+ and 2M GT5

I expect GT6 to come only somewhere in 2012.


  PS3 at 60 million?

 

Seriously?

 

Right now its at 26 million, I think 60 million is out of the realm of possibility

PS3 will be 30M+ by the end of 2009. I even can bet with you on this.

Now, those 10M per year is a worst case scenario. PS3 just reached 299$ price. It yet to have 249$ and 199$. And every GT fan will buy 199$ PS3 bundled with GT5. I say, every.

How much you expect PS3 to do by the end of 2012? Less than 60M? This is a joke, right? You expect PS3 sales to decline, after pricecut? After FFXIII, GT5 and AGENT release?

Because??

because sales will decline, if not next year then the year after, because it'll have greater price pressures from 360, because it's successor will be announced, many reasons why it won't double its console base at this point

PSP sales won`t stop at 60M either.

PS3 is selling around 250k+ every week since pricecut and slim release. And during October that was not an Christmas effect, but new price and slim model effect. And that effect will continue after Christmas.

Many people were saying, that after slim PS3 sales will go below 200k or even 150k. But it didn`t. What price pressure? x360 elite won`t be at 199$ by the end of 2010, and 50$ difference is too small, 399$ vs 349$ PS3 proved that. Also, when console reach mass market price, the price difference doesn`t matter that much.

Successor? Just not before 2012.


Even at 250K sales rate, it would take over 2 and a half years to get to 60 million, its not going to sell at 250K for that long, also you don't know how much MS will price cut, they are making profit, so they can afford it, Sony can't.

 

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ZorroX on 17 November 2009
shams said:
Yeah... PS3 install base 26m, GT5 going to sell 20m? Somehow, I can't see it happening.

Sony should be pleased if it gets anywhere near 10m lifetime IMO - but I think it will top around 7-8m.

There are a lot of racers around these days, its a very saturated market.

There will be 33-35M PS3 by the time of GT5 release. On 26M userbase GT5P sold 4M, this means already 10M on 60M+ userbase by the end of 2012.



Moren on 17 November 2009

so you're saying indirectly it will outsell mario kart wii, typicall



Avinash_Tyagi on 17 November 2009
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:
 

If the PSP can sell 60 million, so can the PS3.

The PSP has always had a higher trend line than the PS3

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PSP&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=PS3&reg3=All&weeks=180

The psp will be at 75 million by the time it's done though, so the PS3 will be at 60 million easily/


  That's only if the PS3 can maintain its current sales rate, which it won't even at its current rate it'll be over 2 and a half years to get to 60 million, and it won't keep that pace for that long

It's at $299, I assume you think it will sell worst at $199, you are bad at predicting dude, just terrible.

Its not like its going to be at $199 while the 360 will be at $299, you do realize that MS will probably start price cutting heavily over the next two years, since they can afford it and Sony can't?  360 will probably get below $200 and possibly even $150 before PS3 can, not to mention at that point, people will be anticipating the PS4 and 720, which will also cut into the sales for the PS3 and 360.

The 360 already sells for $199, and consoles dont kill each other. The PSP still sells even when the DS  destroy it.

FACT : ps3 will sell more next year than this year.

 

360 Arcade sells for 199, not elite, and interestingly we may have seen hints of MS planning cuts on both arcade and Elite with the recent offers.

DS and PSP have very different libraries, so they can coexist much easier, 360 and PS3 are much more similar in games, so the competition in that red ocean is stronger.

PS3 may sell more next year, but will it sell more the year after, because if it doesn't it isn't getting to 60 million



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)