Not at all, Halo Wars was a solid effort, it was partically impossible for it to get Halo 3 scores and sales due to being an RTS.

ODST wasn't a full game, although still good.

If Halo Reach doesn't do Halo 3 sales/scores and isn't a big jump (and it will be a jump as it's an entirely new engine) then we can start talking about it going downhill.

Procrastinato said: Halo: Reach might be decent. Its future installments of Halo that I worry about, since they won't be made by Bungie. There are only a couple IPs that ever truly survived "the handoff", that I can recall -- namely Legacy of Kain (Crystal Dynamics took it from Silicon Knights), and Tomb Raider (again Crystal Dynamics.. took it from Core Design). Every other major IP handoff I can think of went downhill, and fast.

This is probably the biggest take-away from this thread. Halo could be doomed. . .

There is never enough Halo.

Halo fans know when a Halo game is a side tale or the real game. Halo Reach will be a real Halo game and the last from Bungie. ODST was an expansion and Halo Wars was an RTS. You guys pay no attention to these things.

I love it how a lot of people have said 'It's over saturated AND COD has stole it's thunder' Forgetting that there is a COD game EVERY YEAR, contradiction much? If Halo is over saturated then COD is even more so.

Um no. Halo ODST sold very well and it was a game add on to Halo 3. Halo Reach will be huge and it will be an upscale in the graphics department too.

Strategyking92 said: @ hyams Was that leaked screenshot of 'Reach' real? If so it looks like it's going to be the same exact look of ODST. You would think they could have improved the look a bit since it's been in developement for a while.

Just because a picture was leaked doesn't mean it's a brand new picture of the current build of the game.

Looking at it I would assume it's taken from a early alpha build from sometime in 2008. Bungie employee's are currently play testing the online features at their own homes. The screenshots of the build leaked didn't even have a online mode...

The same shit happened with Final Fantasy XIII, some old 2007-8 screenshots were officially released to the public after some newer better looking 2009 build pictures were already leaked onto the internet. Most assumed the 2007-8 worse looking pictures were newer and it left the majority of Sony Final Fantasy Fanboy's screaming DOWNGRADE!11!! and they began to hurl abuse at the Xbox 360. (Nothing new there really)

Reach will be HUGE! and I truly believe it will be the best Halo game yet...

Reach info will be released on/or around Christmas according to the latest Bungie weekly update. Bungie Santa FTW!

My question is why do so many people think every single game needs to have the realistic look like COD and others like that?

yo_john117 said: My question is why do so many people think every single game needs to have the realistic look like COD and others like that?

This is just one of those things that people like to hold against games that they don't like. Honestly, you can pick on any game about something, and the glaring thing to pick on graphically with Halo is the bright color palatte and (surprise!) sci-fi style visuals. It's not "realistic" as though a game featuring a character that can get shot 70 times in succession and jump 10 feet in the air should somehow feature "realism". Same thing with MGS4, people rip on it for having too many movies, even though that is what the MGS series is all about, fantastic story and amazing cutscenes.

Strategyking92 said: It just seems to me as though the Halo name is being oversaturated. It still has the power to sell millions, but it seems as though there will never be an installment that sells as much as halo 3 did. This could either be because halo 3 sold an enourmous feat for a game, that people have moved onto other game series, or both. It is obvious halo will remain a microsoft staple, but how long until it's importance is highly diminished? I know that I have just gotten personally tired of the graphical style. To me it's just aged to be a little kiddy. Games like CoD showcase their realism, and I hope halo could do that one day. So, do you think the halo name is finally starting to see the effects of oversaturation? Have you gotten tired of halo personally?

 

To be honest I have gotten tired of COD myself... so much so that I decided not to pick up MW2 and get only left 4 dead 2 instead. I beat the campaign and that was enough not to bother with the rest.

COD1 was awesome and brought these scripted events in to gameplay that were kind of new. COD2 was the peak and is still my fave COD game. All the other ones have repeated the exact same gameplay and have introduced "shocking" scenes and events. Gameplay is exactly the same if you trace it back to COD1. But thats my own opinion... as the post you made is your opinion only. Besides, COD games these days tend to paint every person from an English speaking country as hero while everyone that has an accent is a terrorist. I sure hope Halo never has to go that low on the "patriotism" scale. I can't wait for MW3 to come with a side order of Freedom fries.

The bottom line is, you can say one looks more realistic but that hardly makes it fun. There will be kiddies that get excited by seeing real people getting shot and real guns but for the rest of us gameplay is still king.

As far as I am concerned Halo ODST is a more fun game than MW2 especially if you have freinds around. I mean, does MW2 even have split screen online multiplayer? I could be wrong but I don't think it does not...