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Forums - General - Something that has been bothering me about the Fort Hood shooting coverage.

TheRealMafoo said:

This would NOT of happened if we were not fighting a war. This would not of happened if we fought the war, and just didn't try to send this guy to fight in it.

This happened, because we are at war. To think otherwise, is to ignore the facts.

Maybe, maybe not, but as he was a psychiatrist, he wasn't going to fight even if he was deployed.



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CommunistHater said:
You do err

You think this happens because we fight wars in the middle east. This would happen without fighting a war.

Islam expands through terror. Children are taught that their parents should kill them if they stop being Muslim. Their book tells them to kill non-believers. With ease of travel to western countries some fanatics will always be carrying out the wishes of their religion.

The bolded text is not true, you made it up.

And your sig makes no sense whatsoever.



           

ultima said:
CommunistHater said:
You do err

You think this happens because we fight wars in the middle east. This would happen without fighting a war.

Islam expands through terror. Children are taught that their parents should kill them if they stop being Muslim. Their book tells them to kill non-believers. With ease of travel to western countries some fanatics will always be carrying out the wishes of their religion.

The bolded text is not true, you made it up.

And your sig makes no sense whatsoever.

Much like the Old and New Testament, the Qur'an and many of the Hadiths have passages that can be interpreted to suggest a war against non-believers; or more generally as a suggestion to kill non-believers. This may not be the mainstream or "Correct" interpretation, but it is the interpretation that is heavily used by radical/fundamentalist Islamic clerics to encourage Jihad.

The danger in most of the western world is that Fundamentalist/Radical Islam is spreading rapidly within the country, and political correctness prevents people from questioning these movements like they question similarly radical movement.



America taking everything too literally and considering everything an act of war is one of its biggest problems.

So let's not.



 

 

CommunistHater said:
You do err

You think this happens because we fight wars in the middle east. This would happen without fighting a war.

Islam expands through terror. Children are taught that their parents should kill them if they stop being Muslim. Their book tells them to kill non-believers. With ease of travel to western countries some fanatics will always be carrying out the wishes of their religion.

Different and radically stupid interpretations may suggest this. And the killing of children that don't believe is more of a cultural thing to do with "honor" than Islam directly. What you seem to think about general Islam is blatant Islamphobia. Only a very small but extremely violent group of muslims would believe this crap.

I'm atheist btw.



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Someone who commits violence in the name of some religion isn't speaking for that religion, but also the 'moderate' people can't claim that real Islam doesn't justify it. There are plenty of passages in the Koran (and Bible, and other holy books/teachings) that support violence, as well as those that support peace. One man's interpretation to mean one thing is as equally valid as the others who don't, because religion means you don't have to believe or act rationally.

It wasn't most Muslims' fault, but neither was it the action of one man. The culture that encourages people to believe things without justification is the problem. Religion should be like smoking - allowed, but socially excluded and as difficult as possible for the unconverted to pick up.



MontanaHatchet said:
America taking everything too literally and considering everything an act of war is one of its biggest problems.

So let's not.

Ahh, so just think it's something else because it's easier? That's not how I want to live my life.



Soleron said:
Someone who commits violence in the name of some religion isn't speaking for that religion.

But someone who does a kind act does? Who get's to make that choice?

Everyone who follows a religion speaks for that religion. Bad or good. 



If I've learned anything from Star Wars, it's that perceptions differ based on the point of view. It's considered the action of a psychopath because it was a premeditated action against us. Now, if this same guy was in a plane and accidentally blew up a busload of soldiers, nobody would raise an eyebrow.



Scoobes said:
CommunistHater said:
You do err

You think this happens because we fight wars in the middle east. This would happen without fighting a war.

Islam expands through terror. Children are taught that their parents should kill them if they stop being Muslim. Their book tells them to kill non-believers. With ease of travel to western countries some fanatics will always be carrying out the wishes of their religion.

Different and radically stupid interpretations may suggest this. And the killing of children that don't believe is more of a cultural thing to do with "honor" than Islam directly. What you seem to think about general Islam is blatant Islamphobia. Only a very small but extremely violent group of muslims would believe this crap.

I'm atheist btw.

CommunistHater is nearly as Islamophobic as this guy who slanders Islam with outrageous statements like, "I always believe Islam is terrorism," and "Everybody had better start embracing Islam or people will start flying planes into buildings again."