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if i had no money and a game is single player and i cna find it online why not? :P here illegal downloading isnt enforced heavily lol



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dorbin2009 said:
MAFKKA said:
nightsurge said:
CommonMan said:
Seems like more and more people feel that they should get things for free. Especially if they feel the item doesn't live up to their arbitrary expectations.

Exactly.  And all they are going to do by pirating it, rather than just not buying it, is give developers more of an excuse to move development to consoles or implement even more DRM.

^ Well the 360 still have 220.000 pirated downloads. So at the moment, i'd say they give developers more of an excuse to move development to the PS3 rather than to "consoles", if your point would claim any value. But yes, i understand what you're saying. Piracy on PC is a problem according to developers.

Still, i think it's not only the Pirate's to blame. I think the platform where games are distributed also needs a look-over, much like the Movie and Music industries are working on. Now services like iTunes, Spotify and Voddler exsists, that delivers a great service where users actully feel its worth coughing up money.

I mean... take MW2 as an example. They go out with info that MW2 for PC is going to get matchmaking instead of dedicated servers. And the PC community feels that this will never work. Had IW released a PC demo, alot of PC gamers might've found out that they could still make it work, i.e they go out and buy the game on release day. But in this case IW drops a bomb, the community is in outrage, and IW just continue on with their everyday life, and later blames the PC community for having a piracy problem.

As long as something is available for free you are going to have a good number of people downloading it. It's been this way ever since the old Kazaa days. I think the ironic thing is is that  the outrage over DRM usually boils down to the lack of being able to pirate as efficiently. I know some will say otherwise, but honestly what it comes down to is "Let me torrent this game. Why can't I torrent it. (or Usenet it, if you want to be trendy), oh It has DRM ? Protest.  The PC gaming community is a dying breed only because 99 percent of games are pirated to no end.

The 360 point you have is sort of moot, only because 220k out of a lifetime 7-10 million unit seller is a paltry sum compared to the PC version, which might hit 2 million lifetime if it is lucky. Do you know what the difference is? You need (system link aside) Xbox live to play with other 360 owners. You play by their rules. On the PC, pirates can usually get by unscathed. That is why when this "outrage" happened over a lack of private servers , I had to laugh a little bit.

The most hilarious thing about pirates? When you ask them why they do it, the answer is either "Because I can" or a masked version of "Because I Can".

I bought battlefield 2142 but my dvd drive couldn't run it because of the drm. Had to use a different dvd drive to run it that i had to unplug a harddrive to use. DRM fails in either instance. It doesn't stop piracy either, but it annoys the fuck out of people who do buy the game and run into trouble because of it.



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I really don't see a problem with people pirating what is essentially a 5-hour game that is, at the same time, more expensive than anything else on the platform.

Less content + completely subpar in every regard isn't going to get you people's money, regardless of if piracy's a factor or not.

If Activision wants people to buy their product, they can make it not a piece of shit, really.



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Rofl there will be more pirated copies than Uncharted 2's LTD



Garnett said:

No wonder why devs are moving away from PC gaming, even Shio cant defend this.

Actually it's easy to defend it since PC Gaming Revenue is outgrowing Console Gaming Revenue in 2009.



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To protest what IW did to the PC gamer crowd I happily told Activision that I was mad as hell and that I'm not going to take it any more. I did my part by buying the PS3 version...



 


Get your Portable ID!

 

My pokemon brings all the nerds to the yard. And they're like, "You wanna trade cards?" Damn right, I wanna trade cards. I'll trade this, but not my charizard.

I've downloaded Dragon Age Origins through torrent first, since there was no demo, after I've played the game for a while, I've bought the PC Collectors Edition.

I don't have the time and money to waste on products that might be crap. I want to have a chance to first try the game before making the purchase. Same way I have downloaded torrents of other titles, some caught my attention and those I've bought (Mass Effect and Gears of War of are the most recent). While others did not interested me (Anno 1404, Modern Warfare 2).

You may think that's imoral or whatever crap, but it seems quiete reasonable to me.



MY HYPE LIST: 1) Gran Turismo 5; 2) Civilization V; 3) Starcraft II; 4) The Last Guardian; 5) Metal Gear Solid: Rising

See thats the problem with pirating this game on PC as a form of silent protest of IW boneheaded decision to turn their backs on PC gamers, the very people that made CoD popular. All IW will see when they notice the number of torrent downloads (and believe me, they'd be keeping an eye on it) will be vindication in their decision to prioritise develop to the console versions and just give PC gamers a direct 360 port.

As an ex-PC gamer, I may or may not of pirated a few PC games in the past, but if the game was great, I'd always go out and buy it to support the developers. I may or may not do the same thing with music. If the game was shite, then I wouldn't buy it. Not saying its right or acceptable, but if developers saw piracy and low game sales as a sign that the game wasn't worth buying instead of a sign that it was a good decision to take shortcuts in the games development, then I think sales would increase.



One more thing, if the game is actually good and up to the standarts that PC gamers are expecting, they will buy it.

I can illustrate that on the Dragon Age release, two of my closest friends have both downloaded the torrent version, I didn't even knew it until we spoke about it in the pub, both of them were really impresed with such a good RPG after quiete some time. Two days later I'm ordering 3 Collector's Editions for PC from the UK, since every single PC version in our country was sold out. EA Europe obviously underestimated customer interest. BTW PC vs console versions here is 3:1 sold.

But on the other hand, you have MW2, which is a PC ripoff. Do you think anyone will go and waste full price + Activision added prick bonus cost for 5 hour long campaign? No... They will download it, play the campaign or they won't bother at all. Stupid decision will cost Activision more than 50 milion USD of profit. I believe that more than 2 mil ppl will pirate it before the end of 2009. Don't screw with the PC or the PC will screw with you. And unlike console community, PC gamers can be quiete radical.



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shio said:
Garnett said:

No wonder why devs are moving away from PC gaming, even Shio cant defend this.

Actually it's easy to defend it since PC Gaming Revenue is outgrowing Console Gaming Revenue in 2009.

Another crazy comment coming from nowhere and with no data to back it up by our friend Shio.....

 

Look at EA, Activision ( minus Wow), Take2, Konami, Capcom, Ubisoft. So which one of those had PC revenue growing faster than console revenue exactly ? None..

All the big one aside Blizzard ( because their games are designed for PC and exclusives) are slowly leaving the ship...

Now sure, Indie revenue or flash games revenue may be growing but who really cares ?

Give it a few years and all that you find on the PC are MMORPGS , RTS and a few leftover PC exclusives. All the big console franchises will stop releasing PC ports...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !