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Carl on 05 November 2009
CGI-Quality said:

So now I'm an anit-Sony "fanboy"? I can't win for losin'

I never said fanboy

I just said a lot of your speculation has been negative Sony



                            

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Khuutra on 05 November 2009
huaxiong90 said:

Well, for one thing, I'm sure GoWII sales are affected by piracy. Not so sure about the first GoW, however.

 

That's not the point though. We're discussing console userbases, and how each game will affect HW sales. We had a Mass Effect this gen. A sequel won't have near the same impact as the first. Uncharted 2 is an exception since the ads, reviews, and cheaper PS3 price made it more accessible to the public. Now, as with God of War, we don't have a single God of War game on the PS3, so the potential is larger.

Eh, your reasoning doesn't really hold. Sequels do outsell previous installments in a series on the same console from time to time - I'll point you back to Halo and Halo 2, for instance.



huaxiong90 on 05 November 2009
Khuutra said:
huaxiong90 said:

Well, for one thing, I'm sure GoWII sales are affected by piracy. Not so sure about the first GoW, however.

 

That's not the point though. We're discussing console userbases, and how each game will affect HW sales. We had a Mass Effect this gen. A sequel won't have near the same impact as the first. Uncharted 2 is an exception since the ads, reviews, and cheaper PS3 price made it more accessible to the public. Now, as with God of War, we don't have a single God of War game on the PS3, so the potential is larger.

Eh, your reasoning doesn't really hold. Sequels do outsell previous installments in a series on the same console from time to time - I'll point you back to Halo and Halo 2, for instance.

I'm talking about HW boosts strictly, though.



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Khuutra on 05 November 2009
huaxiong90 said:
Khuutra said:

Eh, your reasoning doesn't really hold. Sequels do outsell previous installments in a series on the same console from time to time - I'll point you back to Halo and Halo 2, for instance.

I'm talking about HW boosts strictly, though.

If that's the case then why are we expecting a significant boost out of God of War?



Avinash_Tyagi on 05 November 2009
haxxiy said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
CGI-Quality said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Kantor said:
I'm beginning to think the Wii and DS have peaked, particularly the Wii. Even with a price cut, it can't manage last year's numbers. It will sell for many years to come, but the chance of its crossing the PS2 is decreasing. The DS will, of course, breeze past the PS2. But it's even fallen below the Wii now. No matter, a hardware revision or two and a price cut will get things back on track, and it still outpaces the PSP by a fair bit.

The PS2 is dropping massively. Down 53% YoY? I suppose it's 9 years old, but why the sudden drop from 2008 to 2009? Lack of quality software?

PS3 is doing relatively well, up YoY. The price cut + Slim seem to have had a lasting effect rather than just a small boost, and have done a lot more to push hardware than the late 2007 price cut + 40GB. 2009 > 2008 > 2007 in sales, which is a good sign.

X360 isn't doing fantastically, but of course a price cut could change all of that. Not for a while, though. And I doubt Natal will push much hardware.

PSP isn't doing too abysmally, but sales aren't great, either. Even with the quality software it's seeing now that didn't get in these amounts last year.

You know its outselling what the PS2 was selling still, right?

Question though, what was PS2's peak year?

I believe third year

 

Here is the Wii VS PS2

 

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=All&cons2=PS2&reg2=All&cons3=Wii&reg3=All&weeks=180&weekly=1

 

Wii is well above the PS2's weekly sales at the moment

Third year may have been PS2's peak, and so will be Wii's peak, but saying only that may actually be misleading. PS2 managed to sustain a high amount of sales. Heck, 2005 and 2006 saw higher PS2 sales than 2004. Wii was subject to a sudden YoY drop-off with no parallel on console sales history. Damn, Wii 2008-2009 drop-off was bigger than PS2 2001-2008 drop-off in Japan back in the year.

The same would happen everywhere else if wasn't for the pricecut, and know what? It still can't keep with 2008 sales. If thinks keep going like they are, Wii should see sort of a 'weak 2009' in 2010, maybe worse than 2007, leaving Nintendo with no choice but to lower price to $149 at 2010 holidays, sorta mirroring their 2009 behavior. Plus there is Natal with its massive media support and such.

 


And you're ignoring that 2009 was so low because of the lack of first party software, next year Wii has no such problem in fact its first party lineup will probably be at its strongest

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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rafichamp on 05 November 2009

PS3 sales will continue to dominate like this through 2010, reasons why:
mag
heavy rain
god of war III
gran turismo 5
modnation racers
the agent
resistance 3



kutasek on 05 November 2009
Carl2291 said:
CGI-Quality said:

So now I'm an anit-Sony "fanboy"? I can't win for losin'

I never said fanboy

I just said a lot of your speculation has been negative Sony

Somebody has to pick up the slack. Not enough xbox fans, causes ps3 supporters, to defend Xbox. Xbox 360 for life.



huaxiong90 on 05 November 2009
Khuutra said:
huaxiong90 said:
Khuutra said:

Eh, your reasoning doesn't really hold. Sequels do outsell previous installments in a series on the same console from time to time - I'll point you back to Halo and Halo 2, for instance.

I'm talking about HW boosts strictly, though.

If that's the case then why are we expecting a significant boost out of God of War?

Because there hasn't been a single God of War released on the PS3. Most people who wanted Mass Effect would have a 360 by now. God of War hasn't dropped yet, and there could be 360 only users who are waiting for that game so they can purchase a PS3. Therefore, the potential is larger.



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rafichamp on 05 November 2009

^^also CGI, Mass Effect 2 will not give much of a boost, 15k at tops b/c its a sequel, also even MAG has more pre-orders then Mass Effect 2 already, Halo Reach will do what ODST did, as this is Halo game #1000000 for 360, the only 2 factors that can hurt the PS3 is Natal, or Splinter Cell.



Khuutra on 05 November 2009
huaxiong90 said:
Khuutra said:
huaxiong90 said:

I'm talking about HW boosts strictly, though.

If that's the case then why are we expecting a significant boost out of God of War?

Because there hasn't been a single God of War released on the PS3. Most people who wanted Mass Effect would have a 360 by now. God of War hasn't dropped yet, and there could be 360 only users who are waiting for that game so they can purchase a PS3. Therefore, the potential is larger.

Note that I said "significant". Maybe we'll see a significant boost but I don't really see it happening - I find it hard to imagine that that many diehard God of War fans have held off on getting a PS3.