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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS3 May Have Already OUSOLD Wii In Japan For 2009! (Will it stay)!

Kenology on 03 November 2009

This is not gonna be settled until January guys... Let's just let the numbers do the talking until then.



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haxxiy on 03 November 2009

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 19th Mar 2006 to 20th May 2006:
Console DS Japan 1,706,848
VGChartz Hardware data for the period 28th May 2006 to 29th Jul 2006:
Console DS Japan 1,441,725

The two months right before and the two months right after New Super Mario Bros. launch.
DS had sold 8,182,299 consoles until there, about the same Wii sold right now. I'm just trying to point out that if the Wii follows DS pattern as far as games moving hardware concerns, then there is no boost to be expected from NSMBWii.

Still that's not a given. DS was selling so much back then that an eventual small boost could be masked by usual sales numbers. Anything at this rate could help the Wii outselling the PS3.



 

 

 

 

 

burning_phoneix on 03 November 2009
cgkc17 said:
even if the PS3 doesnt beat the wii this year, nintendo should realize something is wrong. the fact that the sales are even this close should be more than enough incentive for nintendo to start pushing their software out the door.

i pray to god nintendo never makes this mistake again, and in the future continually releases games, instead of having game spurts and then year long droughts.

Nintendo have always drip fed games ever since the N64 days. This is just a case of FSTML (Forum short term memory loss)



Avinash_Tyagi on 03 November 2009
darthdevidem01 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Ok, just want to let you know, that it would have to sell like Wii and PS2 sold at their peak holidays in Japan, and this is the PS3 we are talking about

the same ps3 that gets an FF flagship title this holiday


Yeah, and none of the flagship FF titles have moved 500K on their own http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=Japan&cons2=PS2&reg2=Japan&cons3=PS2&reg3=Japan&start=37031&end=37136 That's what FFX did, so yeah, that one week spike of about 80K So yeah expecting FFX to push more than 6 times as many consoles is ridiculous to say the least

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Avinash_Tyagi on 03 November 2009
c0rd said:

Pretty high numbers being thrown around. Keep in mind, the PSP's best holiday, 07, did 1136k in this period. In 08, it did 818k.

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Was looking at FFX's PS2 boost. It's pretty huge, but hard to tell for sure how many it sold when GT3 released so near it. I doubt it's close to anything like 500k, though.

Anyway, keep in mind that FFXIII has only 17 days to sell in 09, compared to NSMBWii's 30. It will sell lots of PS3's, but many will lie outside of the year's end (or before December, at least).


That's not FFX's boost, FFX was out in July in Japan in 2001

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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masterb8tr on 03 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Ok, well we will see, but I think you are being waayy too optimistic about PS3 sales

haha I could say the same to you:) do you really expect wii to have sold 350mill+ units by 2015?



jarrod on 03 November 2009
burning_phoneix said:
cgkc17 said:
even if the PS3 doesnt beat the wii this year, nintendo should realize something is wrong. the fact that the sales are even this close should be more than enough incentive for nintendo to start pushing their software out the door.

i pray to god nintendo never makes this mistake again, and in the future continually releases games, instead of having game spurts and then year long droughts.

Nintendo have always drip fed games ever since the N64 days. This is just a case of FSTML (Forum short term memory loss)

Nintendo's software is fine... they had a bit of a AAA gap between 2H 2008 and 1H 2009, but that was due to Wii Sports Resort getting delayed.

The real problem is 3rd party software.  Looking at Nintendo's DS support, they also had a huge upfront push there with scattered dry periods after that... the difference between DS and Wii though is that DS had 3rd parties plugging gaps for Nintendo and carrying the system in 1st party dry spells.  Nintendo should be working closer with 3rd parties to get Wii games, and while we have some fruits of that from Japan (MH3, DQX), it's probably not enough.

They need to get more on it.  Why did it take 2.5 years to get Red Steel 2?  Where are the Level-5 games?  Kojima Productions games?  Rockstar (Leeds?) GTA?  A full bodied 3rd person Resident Evil?  Soulcalibur 4 & Tekken 6 ports?  A FFXIII spinoff?  Kingdom Hearts 3?  Street Fighter IV?  This is the sort of stuff Wii should probably be getting anyway given it's massive success, but Nintendo should really be doing more to ease whatever issues 3rd parties seem to have with throwing them major support console side.



Avinash_Tyagi on 03 November 2009
masterb8tr said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Ok, well we will see, but I think you are being waayy too optimistic about PS3 sales

haha I could say the same to you:) do you really expect wii to have sold 350mill+ units by 2015?


PS1+PS2+PS3 is not even going to get to 300 mil (Currently according to VGC its about 260 mil, so no chance of even 300mil), so where did the 350mil come from? Anyways, as I've said before it's an old prediction, over two years old in fact, so I don't care whether it comes true or not.

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

masterb8tr on 03 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
masterb8tr said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Ok, well we will see, but I think you are being waayy too optimistic about PS3 sales

haha I could say the same to you:) do you really expect wii to have sold 350mill+ units by 2015?

PS1+PS2+PS3 is not even going to get to 300 mil (Currently according to VGC its about 260 mil, so no chance of even 300mil), so where did the 350mil come from?

ps2 is like what? 140 mill shipped. Ps1 is 100 mill, psp is 50+ and the ps3 is 26 or something. I guess you didnt include psp, anyway the wii wont sell 250 mill.. Imo



Carl on 03 November 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
masterb8tr said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Ok, well we will see, but I think you are being waayy too optimistic about PS3 sales

haha I could say the same to you:) do you really expect wii to have sold 350mill+ units by 2015?

PS1+PS2+PS3 is not even going to get to 300 mil (Currently according to VGC its about 260 mil, so no chance of even 300mil), so where did the 350mil come from?

Seeing that it is YOU who have said PS1 + PS2 + PS3 wont hit 300 Million combined, there is a 99% chance they indeed will.

We all know how you are with predictions afterall...