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The_vagabond7 on 23 October 2007

yeah, according to amazon the PSP is outselling the DS. Not quite what you see in reality.



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omgwtfbbq on 23 October 2007

ioi generally updates the America numbers to reflect NPD when he does the America update. Expect the numbers to be adjusted shortly



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outlawauron on 23 October 2007

ya, wait for the actually numbers to be up.



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jhlennon1 on 23 October 2007
erikers said:
He adjusted them for all the systems today. The ps3 was at 5.13 yesterday then it got sales of 23k for the week today and now the numbers are 5.12 which is a 30k decrease.

360 got sales of 126k and the sales numbers were adjusted upwards by over 200k because of the fact he under tracked it by 70k in September and adjusted the first 2 weeks of October to fix the under tracking trend.

Vgchatz numbers are not accurate, never were, never will be. They get adjusted and estimates get placed on them weekly and then adjusted whenever official data comes in. They are a indication, nothing more. Anyone using Vgchartz numbers in any sort of factual argument has lost before they even started.

Several key sites like Neogaf posting Vgchartz numbers is bannable because of the inaccuracy, post them on IGN and get mocked and laughed at etc...

I am not trying to undermind ioi's work, he's doing a service and the best he can, but the facts are the facts and Vgchartz numbers are just not to be trusted and are not credible.



NJ5 on 23 October 2007
jhlennon1 said:
erikers said:
He adjusted them for all the systems today. The ps3 was at 5.13 yesterday then it got sales of 23k for the week today and now the numbers are 5.12 which is a 30k decrease.

360 got sales of 126k and the sales numbers were adjusted upwards by over 200k because of the fact he under tracked it by 70k in September and adjusted the first 2 weeks of October to fix the under tracking trend.

Vgchatz numbers are not accurate, never were, never will be. They get adjusted and estimates get placed on them weekly and then adjusted whenever official data comes in. They are a indication, nothing more. Anyone using Vgchartz numbers in any sort of factual argument has lost before they even started.

Several key sites like Neogaf posting Vgchartz numbers is bannable because of the inaccuracy, post them on IGN and get mocked and laughed at etc...

I am not trying to undermind ioi's work, he's doing a service and the best he can, but the facts are the facts and Vgchartz numbers are just not to be trusted and are not credible.


I'm not trying to undermine your post, but you haven't written any real reason why your conclusion follows from your premises.

In fact, I'll try to show you how it doesn't follow:

Vgchartz's numbers get adjusted whenever better data is made available, which is precisely why they should be trusted. Recent weeks' numbers should be taken with a grain of salt, but accuracy has also been improving there!

 



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Rath on 23 October 2007
jhlennon1 said:
erikers said:
He adjusted them for all the systems today. The ps3 was at 5.13 yesterday then it got sales of 23k for the week today and now the numbers are 5.12 which is a 30k decrease.

360 got sales of 126k and the sales numbers were adjusted upwards by over 200k because of the fact he under tracked it by 70k in September and adjusted the first 2 weeks of October to fix the under tracking trend.

Vgchatz numbers are not accurate, never were, never will be. They get adjusted and estimates get placed on them weekly and then adjusted whenever official data comes in. They are a indication, nothing more. Anyone using Vgchartz numbers in any sort of factual argument has lost before they even started.

Several key sites like Neogaf posting Vgchartz numbers is bannable because of the inaccuracy, post them on IGN and get mocked and laughed at etc...

I am not trying to undermind ioi's work, he's doing a service and the best he can, but the facts are the facts and Vgchartz numbers are just not to be trusted and are not credible.


 So VGC data shouldnt be trusted because they get adjusted in order to become more accurate? o.O

Also Neogaf is a bit of a joke in my opinion = hardly a key site. 



elendar on 23 October 2007
leo-j said:
Wtf? I dont get it? Amazon sales increased, and the ps3 sales dropped to the 20k range?

Is the sky falling yet?

erikers on 23 October 2007
jhlennon1 said:
erikers said:
He adjusted them for all the systems today. The ps3 was at 5.13 yesterday then it got sales of 23k for the week today and now the numbers are 5.12 which is a 30k decrease.

360 got sales of 126k and the sales numbers were adjusted upwards by over 200k because of the fact he under tracked it by 70k in September and adjusted the first 2 weeks of October to fix the under tracking trend.

Vgchatz numbers are not accurate, never were, never will be. They get adjusted and estimates get placed on them weekly and then adjusted whenever official data comes in. They are a indication, nothing more. Anyone using Vgchartz numbers in any sort of factual argument has lost before they even started.

Several key sites like Neogaf posting Vgchartz numbers is bannable because of the inaccuracy, post them on IGN and get mocked and laughed at etc...

I am not trying to undermind ioi's work, he's doing a service and the best he can, but the facts are the facts and Vgchartz numbers are just not to be trusted and are not credible.


 Where am I using vg chartz numbers in a factual argument?  The TC asked when the numbers would be adjusted and I told him when and why they were today.  Why don't you learn to analyze the reason that I posted that particular information?  Nothing in my post is about accuracy or credibility.  My post = he adjusted them today.   Learn to read. 



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jhlennon1 on 23 October 2007
erikers said:
jhlennon1 said:
erikers said:
He adjusted them for all the systems today. The ps3 was at 5.13 yesterday then it got sales of 23k for the week today and now the numbers are 5.12 which is a 30k decrease.

360 got sales of 126k and the sales numbers were adjusted upwards by over 200k because of the fact he under tracked it by 70k in September and adjusted the first 2 weeks of October to fix the under tracking trend.

Vgchatz numbers are not accurate, never were, never will be. They get adjusted and estimates get placed on them weekly and then adjusted whenever official data comes in. They are a indication, nothing more. Anyone using Vgchartz numbers in any sort of factual argument has lost before they even started.

Several key sites like Neogaf posting Vgchartz numbers is bannable because of the inaccuracy, post them on IGN and get mocked and laughed at etc...

I am not trying to undermind ioi's work, he's doing a service and the best he can, but the facts are the facts and Vgchartz numbers are just not to be trusted and are not credible.


Where am I using vg chartz numbers in a factual argument? The TC asked when the numbers would be adjusted and I told him when and why they were today. Why don't you learn to analyze the reason that I posted that particular information? Nothing in my post is about accuracy or credibility. My post = he adjusted them today. Learn to read.


Ok, I'll just assume that your reading comprehension is not up to standard. I never said "you" I said "anyone" who uses the data as factual info is wrong. I was being informative, not criticizing your post.

VGcharts make estimates, just like you or me, they display their estimates, sometimes they are close, sometimes they are way off. The numbers whether adjusted or not should be taken with a grain of salt and used as indication purposes only, imo. 

Media Create and NPD are the accurate places to get data and Europe data gets passed on from charts track,  Gk and Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo themselves.