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vlad321 on 07 November 2009
heruamon said:
Guess Vlad will be skipping it...sounds great to me...as I'm looking forward to the game!

I've been doing this with way too many games recently. The industry eeds to stop  making games that are worse than games that have come mout years ago....



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burning_phoneix on 07 November 2009
vlad321 said:
Ok quick notations about the interview:

-FUCKING LEVELLING, THIS IS A HORRIBLE IDEA.
-The sotry of "the classic 4th son of a nobility thrust up to being heir due to everyone dying" is bullshit, this is a mech game, not some sappy RPG game.....
-I like them making all mechs valuable and having their ow niche
-I'm hating how they are brinnging about the tie when mech's were more valuable than the piltos. Sounds to me like they are using that as a cop out not to make more varied mechs....
-They are also using the story as a cop out for making very few weapons it seems...
-They are trying to make a PC mechwarrior game and then fittig it on the 360, that makes me happy

The biggest thing that annoys me is that they keep saying "we don't have a publisher yet so we will see how this flies" which translates to me "we'll make the game play like shit as long as it gets sold." Also MechWarrior's DLC was actually DLC worth purchasing head, shoulders, and torso above what today's DLC is. For now I'm hopeful and disappointed and skeptical still of this move.

Story first:

 

Have you ever played a MW game? ALL their stories are like this:

 

MW1: An heir's family is murdered and the chalice that proves he is the heir is stolen so he's exiled. Now he must take revenge and restore his throne

 

MW2: Clan Jade Falcon and Clan Wolf start a civil war between the clans to decide if the inner sphere should be spared or invaded

MW3: The player is a lance leader sent to destroy the remnants of the fierce Clan Smoke Jaguar

MW4: The player is a noble and the son of a famed war hero. Your cousin betrays your family and murders your father. You escape to a nearby moon to launch a campaign of revenge on your cousin and reclaim the throne.

 

See a pattern? Mechwarrior games generally have lots of nobility and clans and other things you might associate with RPG games. This storyline is classic mechwarrior.

 

About mech more valuable than pilot:

How is that a cop out? It just means losing your mech is a more seroius affair this time round since you don't have many spares lying around

And of course they'll have to wait for a publisher! The budget the publisher sets aside for them completely dictates how much they can afford to put in the game!

 

Also, Mechwarrior 4's mech packs were so shitty. You got 4 mechs for 13$ which is an outrageous price. And media outlets agree:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/mechwarrior4inner?q=Mechwarrior

 

As for the levelng. What I like is that it's tied to the class of mech you play so you can specialize in a certain mech and bring a new dynamic to lance vs lance combat kinda like TF2. I don't like CoD4s single slider system (only one way to go, up) so this is better.



S.T.A.G.E. on 07 November 2009
vlad321 said:
burning_phoneix said:
vlad321 said:
burning_phoneix said:
Call me crazy but I think they can pull it off on 360 without sacrificing too much. They said RTSes can never work on a controller yet they managed to work around it.


(Though Mouse+Keyboard and/or Joystick is by far the best configuration for Mechwarrior)

No they didn't. Did you play the RTSes on the consoles? They would single-handedly set RTSes back about 15 years if they were the standard....

They do a cosole version of this thing and the MechWarrior series has officially turned to crap.

I thought Halo Wars and LOTR: Battle for Middle Earth II had a decent control scheme.

 

Of course, as I said thesewere workarounds and not standards.

 

Should be in the gaming section. It's not PC exclusive.

This was actually intended to discuss the whole series which is basically a PC staple but whatever..

Both games were actually very weak as far as RTSes go. Good thig they aren't making too many of those utterly simplified games.

@Vlad: Be happy that RTS even got the exposure that it did because of the 360 and Halo Wars. The mainstream got their hands on a title from a different genre. I don't care if it isn't the quality you were speaking of. Halo Wars is a great introduction for newbs into RTS. Perhaps they will buy Diablo and more blizzard titles of the sort.

On topic: MECHWARRIOR will be one of the top 360/PC exclusives!!! I grew up playing this game on PC and I welcome it on my 360 since I am sick of playing PC games.



heruamon on 07 November 2009
vlad321 said:
heruamon said:
Guess Vlad will be skipping it...sounds great to me...as I'm looking forward to the game!

I've been doing this with way too many games recently. The industry eeds to stop  making games that are worse than games that have come mout years ago....

I'll wait to form hard opinions on the gameplay, until I actually see something.  I'm excited about the game, but that's on potential, not this specific project.



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marc on 15 November 2009
vlad321 said:
Ok quick notations about the interview:

-FUCKING LEVELLING, THIS IS A HORRIBLE IDEA.
-The sotry of "the classic 4th son of a nobility thrust up to being heir due to everyone dying" is bullshit, this is a mech game, not some sappy RPG game.....
-I like them making all mechs valuable and having their ow niche
-I'm hating how they are brinnging about the tie when mech's were more valuable than the piltos. Sounds to me like they are using that as a cop out not to make more varied mechs....
-They are also using the story as a cop out for making very few weapons it seems...
-They are trying to make a PC mechwarrior game and then fittig it on the 360, that makes me happy

The biggest thing that annoys me is that they keep saying "we don't have a publisher yet so we will see how this flies" which translates to me "we'll make the game play like shit as long as it gets sold." Also MechWarrior's DLC was actually DLC worth purchasing head, shoulders, and torso above what today's DLC is. For now I'm hopeful and disappointed and skeptical still of this move.


RPG elements can mean anything and almost every game in existence today has some classic "RPG" elements just like RPG's have inhereted elements from other genres. We have enough brain dead FPS mech games already and guess what? They all sucked. I welcome something with RPG elements especially if that means a better story, more techinical details, and better control over your mech design and operation.