Thanks I new he was full of crap. I know for a fact that SNES also had a much higher sales then just 20% being Nintendo first party.
-JC7
"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer
Thanks I new he was full of crap. I know for a fact that SNES also had a much higher sales then just 20% being Nintendo first party.
-JC7
"In God We Trust - In Games We Play " - Joel Reimer
You're welcome. Yeah, Ninty have always had pretty high proportions of the sales on their systems.
I've heard this claim that Nintendo isn't doing as much as in previous generations multiple times from several different people on the forums lately. I did a little research, and have posted this multiple times already. Here it is again:
Nintendo published titles in America, separated by year:
| 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th | Total | |
| NES | 18 | 8 | 9 | 9 | 7 | 12 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 71 (44) |
| SNES | 5 | 8 | 6 | 11 | 6 | 5 | 2 | 43 (30) | |||
| N64 | 6 | 8 | 11 | 10 | 14 | 4 | 53 (35) | ||||
| GC | 4 | 8 | 11 | 12 | 11 | 4 | 50 (35) | ||||
| Wii (Retail) (WiiWare) |
3 0 |
13 0 |
8 |
8(+1) 5 |
32 (33) 12 |
The numbers in parathesis in the Total column are the total number of games after the fourth calender year. This allows an easier comparison to the Wii.
Games are separated by calender year, mostly because it was just a lot easier to do it that way. The fourth year for the Wii is 2009, and the unreleased game NSMB Wii is represented as (+1). WiiWare for the fourth year could also grow.
I did this mostly for my own benefit, but figured this would be interesting enough to other people. I just wanted to see how some of the claims in this thread would hold up. These are all games, because I think the core/casual thing is mostly BS.
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That is a ludicrous number of NES games, I spose back then games were quicker to make, but still. Impressive.
The Wii had the most games of any console since the NES at the end of calender year 2. Some might say Nintendo then slacked off in their third year to make room for 3rd parties, but I suspect the Wiiware games had a decent amount to do with it.
| theRepublic said: I've heard this claim that Nintendo isn't doing as much as in previous generations multiple times from several different people on the forums lately. I did a little research, and have posted this multiple times already. Here it is again: theRepublic said:
Nintendo published titles in America, separated by year:
The numbers in parathesis in the Total column are the total number of games after the fourth calender year. This allows an easier comparison to the Wii. Games are separated by calender year, mostly because it was just a lot easier to do it that way. The fourth year for the Wii is 2009, and the unreleased game NSMB Wii is represented as (+1). WiiWare for the fourth year could also grow. I did this mostly for my own benefit, but figured this would be interesting enough to other people. I just wanted to see how some of the claims in this thread would hold up. These are all games, because I think the core/casual thing is mostly BS. |
I'm one of those very people you talk about!
Thanks for your research it really helps prove my point. The Wii had the fewest first party titles launch year opposed to any of Nintendo's past platforms. I remember Reggie Initially promising 7 first party titles launch day (The beginning of my dissapointment with Nintendo). Then during the third year Nintendo published fewer games on the Wii then they did on GameCube/N64/NES. Fourth year Nintendo releases less or equal amount of first party games compared to its past consoles.
Now some will argue WiiWare should be classified as full blown games. However I view WiiWare as DLC for the most part they are cheaply developer and pushed onto market. Since virtual games never existed on prior platforms it is unfair to compair them to past platforms!
Then of these Wii games how many are hardcore? I mean not aimed at the casual market? If you take WiiSportsResort,WiiPlay, WiiFit, WiiFitPlus, WiiMusic , WiiSports, BrainTraining. That leaves the Wii retail of non-casual library games at 25, half of that of GameCube which was Nintendo's biggest failure (Marketshare wise).
-JC7
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LordTheNightKnight said:
And NPD showed it isn't true either. Even if the ratio dropped since that announcement, it still shows they sell on the Wii. "No. And, it's especially bad considering these high selling third party games are titles like Carnival Games and not games like No More Heroes or Okami that deserve good sales." Both made money, and both are getting sequels. Don't tell me they didn't have good sales. |
They and the Metroid games and Muramasa didn't sell anywhere near as well as games rated significantly lower than them did. You don't see that on PS3 and 360 -- much lower rated games selling significantly more than Halo or Gears or MGS and Uncharted.
Sales =/= "AAA game"
Nintendo has released just as many games as they usually do, so please stop the wining. No, mommy doesn't love you exclusively anymore, and have to spend a little time and efford on the new kids, suck it up.
Also quite retarded that you say Nintendos titles underperforms, for obvious reasons.
"Also quite retarded that you say Nintendos titles underperforms, for obvious reasons."
At least I don't look like some German Gestapo's pansy boy in my profile pic.
One thing that should be remembered, is most of those third party million sellers sold at most like 2 million, many of Wii's first [arty million sellers went well over 5 million, some even more than 10 and 20 million, so just comparing the number of games that breach a million doesn't give you the full picture
Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!! It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!! Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)
Joelcool7 said:
I'm one of those very people you talk about! Thanks for your research it really helps prove my point. The Wii had the fewest first party titles launch year opposed to any of Nintendo's past platforms. I remember Reggie Initially promising 7 first party titles launch day (The beginning of my dissapointment with Nintendo). Then during the third year Nintendo published fewer games on the Wii then they did on GameCube/N64/NES. Fourth year Nintendo releases less or equal amount of first party games compared to its past consoles. Now some will argue WiiWare should be classified as full blown games. However I view WiiWare as DLC for the most part they are cheaply developer and pushed onto market. Since virtual games never existed on prior platforms it is unfair to compair them to past platforms! Then of these Wii games how many are hardcore? I mean not aimed at the casual market? If you take WiiSportsResort,WiiPlay, WiiFit, WiiFitPlus, WiiMusic , WiiSports, BrainTraining. That leaves the Wii retail of non-casual library games at 25, half of that of GameCube which was Nintendo's biggest failure (Marketshare wise). |
This does not prove your point. Over four years, Nintendo has only published two less games on the Wii than their last two consoles. That is only half a game a year. Are you really telling me that you miss half a game a year? Not only that, but now there is the addition of WiiWare to consider.
As I said, the casual core thing is mostly BS. There are good games, bad games, games you like, and games you don't like. If you don't like some Nintendo games that is fine, but it is no excuse to say that Nintendo is slacking off, especially when there are plenty of people out there who like Nintendo's new IPs this gen.
You also compared the full six years of GC games to the four years of Wii games. You shouldn't do that, and I even provided the correct comparisons in the chart.
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