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Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Kantor said:
kowenicki said:
Did Wii owners think Edge was crap when they scored SMG 10?

Thank you. Your post will be conveniently ignored by everyone, by the way.

His post wasn't ignored.  There's just a lot more behind reviews than a cut and dry 'this game is good, that game is bad'.  Sure Mario Galaxy got high reviews, but much of that was because of hype.  The same hype that pushed GTAIV up to a perfect score on many sites.  At the same time, its the counter-effect to that hype which lowers many Wii game scores, as reviewers see the Wii being so popular with no solid basis in their minds.  The system isn't the strongest graphically, isn't the most popular with 'hardcore' gamers and isn't generating the most marketing.  Yet it sells the most systems and software.

In short, they review Wii games more harshly than other games, and only a few games, such as Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3, get high scores because they have strong hype behind them and are popular even with reviewers.

And if anything, I'd like to point out that if Edge gave Mario Galaxy a 10, it just shows their inconsistency with scoring even more.

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Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Kantor said:
kowenicki said:
Did Wii owners think Edge was crap when they scored SMG 10?

Thank you. Your post will be conveniently ignored by everyone, by the way.

His post wasn't ignored.  There's just a lot more behind reviews than a cut and dry 'this game is good, that game is bad'.  Sure Mario Galaxy got high reviews, but much of that was because of hype.  The same hype that pushed GTAIV up to a perfect score on many sites.  At the same time, its the counter-effect to that hype which lowers many Wii game scores, as reviewers see the Wii being so popular with no solid basis in their minds.  The system isn't the strongest graphically, isn't the most popular with 'hardcore' gamers and isn't generating the most marketing.  Yet it sells the most systems and software.

In short, they review Wii games more harshly than other games, and only a few games, such as Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3, get high scores because they have strong hype behind them and are popular even with reviewers.

And if anything, I'd like to point out that if Edge gave Mario Galaxy a 10, it just shows their inconsistency with scoring even more.

I agree that they are extremely inconsistent. However, this talk of them being Nintendo haters, of them having some sort of agenda against the game, is quite frankly ridiculous. I suppose they must also hate the HD consoles: Killzone 2 is a 7, Halo Wars is a 7, BioShock, Fallout 3, A Crack in Time, 7. It would be helpful if everyone realised that an Edge 7 means that it is of average quality for a popular game this gen, ie an 8.5 or so from IGN. So, in fact, they don't hate, or even dislike any of these games. A 10 from Edge is reserved for highly innovative/extremely hyped games (GTA4, Halo 3, LBP), which is why MGS4 not getting a 10 is quite surprising.

One annoying trait of many Wii fans is their tendency to discount reviewers...and then forget that they did so. IGN gives Wii Music a 5, they are awful, Nintendo-hating, graphic whore reviewers. But wait, they gave The Conduit an 8.6, they are now the best reviewers in the world and the only ones that understand the Wii!

Next year, when Zelda Wii gets a 10 and Metroid: Other M gets a 9, how many people are going to remember that Edge are evil Nintendo haters because they gave NSMBWii a 7?



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^Kantor, then how do you expalin the consistently low socres for some of Wii's biggest games, either they don't understand Wii games, or they have a bias against thos games, they didn't even bother reviewing Wii fit or Wii fit plus, says a lot.



 

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Avinash_Tyagi said:
^Kantor, then how do you expalin the consistently low socres for some of Wii's biggest games, either they don't understand Wii games, or they have a bias against thos games, they didn't even bother reviewing Wii fit or Wii fit plus, says a lot.

They consistently score all games below the average, it's their job. They're the Simon Cowell of game reviewing.

As for not reviewing Wii Fit...that's rather odd, I'll admit.



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Kantor said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Kantor said:
kowenicki said:
Did Wii owners think Edge was crap when they scored SMG 10?

Thank you. Your post will be conveniently ignored by everyone, by the way.

His post wasn't ignored.  There's just a lot more behind reviews than a cut and dry 'this game is good, that game is bad'.  Sure Mario Galaxy got high reviews, but much of that was because of hype.  The same hype that pushed GTAIV up to a perfect score on many sites.  At the same time, its the counter-effect to that hype which lowers many Wii game scores, as reviewers see the Wii being so popular with no solid basis in their minds.  The system isn't the strongest graphically, isn't the most popular with 'hardcore' gamers and isn't generating the most marketing.  Yet it sells the most systems and software.

In short, they review Wii games more harshly than other games, and only a few games, such as Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3, get high scores because they have strong hype behind them and are popular even with reviewers.

And if anything, I'd like to point out that if Edge gave Mario Galaxy a 10, it just shows their inconsistency with scoring even more.

I agree that they are extremely inconsistent. However, this talk of them being Nintendo haters, of them having some sort of agenda against the game, is quite frankly ridiculous. I suppose they must also hate the HD consoles: Killzone 2 is a 7, Halo Wars is a 7, BioShock, Fallout 3, A Crack in Time, 7. It would be helpful if everyone realised that an Edge 7 means that it is of average quality for a popular game this gen, ie an 8.5 or so from IGN. So, in fact, they don't hate, or even dislike any of these games. A 10 from Edge is reserved for highly innovative/extremely hyped games (GTA4, Halo 3, LBP), which is why MGS4 not getting a 10 is quite surprising.

One annoying trait of many Wii fans is their tendency to discount reviewers...and then forget that they did so. IGN gives Wii Music a 5, they are awful, Nintendo-hating, graphic whore reviewers. But wait, they gave The Conduit an 8.6, they are now the best reviewers in the world and the only ones that understand the Wii!

Next year, when Zelda Wii gets a 10 and Metroid: Other M gets a 9, how many people are going to remember that Edge are evil Nintendo haters because they gave NSMBWii a 7?

I'd just like to point out that if you're lumping me into your example of 'Nintendo fans', that won't be my view.  I didn't throw up a big fuss when WiiMusic got a low score and I don't exactly think an 8.6 is an amazing score.  the 8.X scores has been a pretty general score IGN has been throwing at a lot of good Wii games this gen which deserve a higher score (such as Muramasa, WarioLand Shake It, Mario Kart Wii, etc).  It almost makes you feel like only major games with good graphics and hype can surpass that 9.0 mark (like Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 and Smash Bros Brawl).  Heck, they even gave the port of RE4 a 9.0, but wouldn't give something like Muramasa the same score.  What really a the difference between 8.9 and 9.0....marketing? 'hardcore appeal'? 3D graphics?



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Kantor said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
^Kantor, then how do you expalin the consistently low socres for some of Wii's biggest games, either they don't understand Wii games, or they have a bias against thos games, they didn't even bother reviewing Wii fit or Wii fit plus, says a lot.

They consistently score all games below the average, it's their job. They're the Simon Cowell of game reviewing.

As for not reviewing Wii Fit...that's rather odd, I'll admit.


Not all, as you yourself pointed out, they gave Galaxy a 10, now don't get me wrong, Galaxy was very good, but giving Galaxy a 10 and Kart and WSR a 6, that's a big difference, their reviews, plus the absence of one of the biggest games of the gen, and its sequel, makes it seem like they don't really understand how to approach the Wii.

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Oooh EDGE review.

I believe I have a big bottle of ignore-sauce somewhere.

OT: I would love to see how he'd review the NES era.



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Very interesting. But im pretty sure this game will get alot better scores from the other reviewers. Probably a low to mid 80s in the end on metacritic



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Mario Kart wii all over again, and it's gonna turn into one of the best games of the gen.



Who really cares about the edge to be perfectly honest. I'll wait for the important sites (gamespot, ign, etc)