I thinks its gonna be for the xbox360/ps3 OR the PS3 only.
It won't go to the wii since nintendo KH games sold really badly.
KH:CoM on the GBA sold 1.76m
KH:358/2 Days on the DS sold 1.05m

They supposedly have higher fan base remember?

I'm sorry, but handheld spinoffs are a representation of a full console release? Ok.

The Wii was starting to dwindle down in sales at the moment of the announcement. It was obvious it was going nowhere but down last year at the time of the DQX announcement. None of the games that were released last year in the second half had a considerable effect and they needed to make sure that they were getting the biggest 3rd party game on the Wii as an incentive to other devs who doubted about the Wii. But still it wasn't enough and announcements never arrived and kept on going for the HD consoles.

Had they not moneyhatted (which is my opinion but I'm sure it happened that way) DQX would have probably ended being a PS3/HD game, like the vast majority of the games announced this year for home consoles.

It is quite obvious we aren't going to agree on the rest of it, but I have to point out this sentence right here. There have been very few announcements on all consoles including the HD consoles from Japanese games. Most announcements are for Handhelds. Actually, tell me one "big" Square-Enix announcement for HD consoles since DQX's announcement. From the looks of it, the biggest is FFXIV, and that will sell 1mln(if that) at most on both platforms(PC+PS3). On the other hand, they've been announcing PSP and DS games every month. Tri-Ace is a supporter of HD Consoles, but as a developer they aren't big, and the only thing they really announced was End Of Eternity and a few 360 games going to PS3. And that is about it. Most of what you see on the HD consoles are long announced projects from before the generation even started. So it isn't as PS360 focused as you may think. Well in the Japanese sphere of things anyway.

tres - Man I would love to live in the world you do.

First off, will you at least recognise the magnitude of what you are saying? Both MS and Sony have occasionally stated in press releases that they paid for a game, moneyhatting is considered a valid tactic. Nintendo has never before moneyhatted a game... ever

When the PS1 took all of the big 3rd party exclusives from the N64. Nintendo did not moneyhat
When the GC was selling buggerall and analysts were predicting Nintendo to become handheld only, Nintendo did not moneyhat
Why would they moneyhat now?

Nintendo has done a little moneyhatting like they did with RE on the GC, but it's obvious they need to moneyhat to get a game like that on GC.  There is a possibility any game could be moneyhatted without us knowing it, but looking at the situation fairly Nintendo has considerable leverage over Sony in any negotiations for DQ.  I don't need to repeat myself for the reasons why.

@sc:

FFXIV, SO4 International, Front Mission Evolved, Yakuza 4, Ar Tonelico 3, Summon Night 5, Trinity: Zill'Ol, Nier, Lost Planet 2, Dead Rising 2, Super Street Fighter 4, Metal Gear Solid Rising, Sengoku Basara 3 (superior version), Castlevania: Lords of Shadows, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Dinasty Warriors: Troy, First of the North Star, Trinity Universe, 3D Dot Heroes, Dragon Ball Z: Raging Blast, End of Eternity, Tales of Vesperia, Kidou Senshi Gundam UC 0081, Musou Orochi Z, Atelier Rorona, Katamari Damacy Tribute, Agarest Senki Zero, Tears to Tiara Gaiden, White Album, Last Rebellion, 428, Dinasty Warriors MultiRaid Special, Quantum Theory, RE5: Alternate Edition.

All those were announced for the PS3 after DQX was announced last year. And I know I'm missing some. What announcements did the Wii get on the other hand?

Hospital, Sengoku Basara 3 (inferior version), Super Robot Wars Neo, Naruto 10th anniversary, Taiko 2, No More Heroes 2, Monster Hunter G, SD Gundam G, RE:DSC, Ju-On, Full Metal Alchemist 2, Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, Tats vs Capcom: US.


The PS3 received many more announcements, it's not even funny.

uhh i mean that the handheld releases are supposed to bring more
fanbase to the world of kingdom hearts but that isn't the case here since
the sales aren't as good and its even falling.
most KH fans are from PS2 thus PS3 people thus the fanbase in nintendo
consoles do not know about kingdom hearts and this can be a big blow
to KH3 sales.
If KH:BBS sales prove to be higher than everyone's expectations then
SE will lean towards to the PS3.

I'm not even gonna bother looking up anything about that, because what the hell does that have to do with the DQ annoucement tres? All of those are AFTER the DQ announcement as you said yourself. Your previous posts about the subject have done nothing to talk about why they should have chosen PS3 over wii, and everything about stuff that happened half a year later. DQ is gonna sell like crazy no matter what as long as it is on a decent userbase. It has a large casual following, doesn't require cutting edge graphics, and DQ9 is on a Nintendo handheld. You're gonna have to actually explain why it would be more profitable to put it on the PS3 or all your jibberish is meaningless. You should be thinking from the perspective of before the announcement last year (although even the events this year shouldn't change the outcome).

trestres, DQX on the PS3? Why in the world would SE do this? A main DQ hasn't sold less than 2.7m in Japan since the NES (DQII, released 22 years ago). As a vast majority of its sales are from Japan, a PS3 release wouldn't make sense. It doesn't have the userbase to support the game.

DQX cannot be compared to the other games the PS3 is receiving. None of them are close to the size DQ is, and the only exception (FFXIII) works because most of FF's sales comes from overseas. It's true that the Wii was dwindling in sales, but are you forgetting how the PS3 was selling? It was doing under 10k a week. The damn 360 outsold it for about 2 months straight. Yeah, remember that? Putting the biggest 3rd party franchise in Japan on a console with such a small userbase (PS3) would be an awful choice, considering that's where at least 70% of its sales will come from.

Now, I do think Nintendo struck a deal with SE. Didn't they say they agreed to give it a big marketing push in the west? I suppose you can call it moneyhatting. I highly doubt they were afraid of DQ going to the PS3 (it'd end up on a handheld if anything), but they definitely wanted to get the word out to developers / fans.

Oh, as for KH3... yeah. I think it'd be more profitable on the Wii (hence, the most likely console), but it really can end up anywhere. Not much else to say about it.

Also, I'm surprised people bring the handheld sales into this, as if they're a bad thing. The handheld spinoffs did (or are doing) fine on their own. You cannot assume the handheld iterations of a series (much less a spin-off) will sell equal to its console counterparts. GT PSP, anyone?

edit: Using KH 358/2 sales is pretty meaningless, as the game just came out in its biggest market (US). The game will probably end up selling over 2 million.