By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Nintendo - Crystal Bearers developer: Selling on Wii will not be easy.

Soriku said:
ckmlb said:
I cannot speak to quality of a game I haven't played so I'll trust the judgments of the people who have played it in that regard, still a spin-off selling better than the main series isn't that crazy as some would think.


Can you name how often a spin off that is completely different in terms of genre and gameplay and such outsells the main games? Especially one that is of quality. Spin offs outselling main games isn't impossible - see Persona vs. SMT sales, or ToS: DotNW vs. ToV sales, but at least those games are similar to the main games and are quality...

I can't name that many because I don't think it happens that often, but Dead Space is a recent example even though that did bad. Final Fantasy Dissidia, XII: Revenant Wings and Crisis Core are good examples of spin-offs that sold well, but they did not beat the original series. 

Final Fantasy Tactics outsold Final Fantasy I,II,III and equal to FF V back in the day.

@c0rd: I only used recent examples, not really familiar with every one of their relseases of DQ.



Thanks to Blacksaber for the sig!

Around the Network

Marketing games on the Wii is not difficult. The problem is that nobody does it; not even Nintendo most of the time. The real trick is that you can't market to the blue ocean the way you market to the fratcore, because most people won't be taken in by a shiny trailer and a couple of awesome screenshots the way the fratcore are: the blue ocean still knows that graphics don't matter. Instead, you have to convince them of something these things can't show: that the game is actually fun to play. Nintendo has mastered this with the Wii _____ series, by showing people actually having fun with the games in their ads. This was so successful that even Wii Music broke 2.5 million, despite being smeared mercilessly by reviewers.

The problem is, I'm not sure Nintendo really knows what they have here, since they have failed to use this tactic with anything that doesn't have the word "Wii" in the title. Squeenix certainly doesn't know, because they're still marketing Crystal Bearers in the fratcore fashion: lots of pretty pictures, but no evidence of the game actually being any good. This will not work on the blue ocean, and so the game will not sell.

This is what companies should be doing with all of their games, if they want to capture the blue ocean: show people having fun. This is not hard to do at all, as long as your game is any good. If you can't find people visibly having fun while playing your game, then it's time to upend the tea table, because something is seriously wrong with your game if people are not having fun.



Complexity is not depth. Machismo is not maturity. Obsession is not dedication. Tedium is not challenge. Support gaming: support the Wii.

Be the ultimate ninja! Play Billy Vs. SNAKEMAN today! Poisson Village welcomes new players.

What do I hate about modern gaming? I hate tedium replacing challenge, complexity replacing depth, and domination replacing entertainment. I hate the outsourcing of mechanics to physics textbooks, art direction to photocopiers, and story to cheap Hollywood screenwriters. I hate the confusion of obsession with dedication, style with substance, new with gimmicky, old with obsolete, new with evolutionary, and old with time-tested.
There is much to hate about modern gaming. That is why I support the Wii.

'Third parties that put out quality titles that people want have not had a problem. Crystal Bearers may not be as wanted as the main FF series, it is far more wanted than an on rails shooter. Assuming it's actually a quality title, it will easily break 1 million.'.

Easily?



PSN - hanafuda

Suggesting SE games are poor quality?

I can only assume that is one of your sarcastic posts.



PSN - hanafuda

Have you played FF CC?



PSN - hanafuda

Around the Network

And Crystal Bearers?



PSN - hanafuda

No, but I'm wondering how you are judging the quality of it. A Famitsu review? Or if I want it on PSP or not?



PSN - hanafuda

I don't want it because Soriku had it in his sig. Sure sign of a terrible game.

On another note, I'd quite like 4 warriors of Light on PSP. That looks pretty cool.



PSN - hanafuda

lol, you been lurking?



PSN - hanafuda

so they were absolutely right then



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey