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So, at risk of sounding like a fanboy, I have noticed a few rather inconsistan arguments on the forums, and was wondering if anybody could shed some light as to why people use them...

1. The PS3 is more expensive that the 360, and yet, it is still able to stay relatively close to it in terms of sales (not sure if this was total sales, or sales numbers at any given time.)

FACT: The PS3 is a cheaper console after adding up all the accesories (new, not used) so why is it behind the 360 in terms of total sales (or perhaps at an earlier time, current sales numbers.)

2. The 360 is a more expensive consle when you add up the cost of add ons (new), and yet it is still ahead.

FACT: The 360 has a lower initial price point, and many consumers don't bother adding up the add-on costs (new).

3. The RROD was so horrible!

FACT: Even with RROD, the console is still ahead of the PS3 (in terms of total sales)

4. Paying for Xbox Live is a crime because you already pay for your internet, why should you pay MS to use the internet connection you already pay for.

FACT: Even XBL uses servers to match people together, you are paying to use those servers (along with other fun little things that come with Gold) Even free Xbox linking programs like XBC use servers to network Xbox's together as a P2P network. What you though that just magically happened? Besides, if paying for the live services are a crime, so is paying for online porn and video streaming services, after all, they all make you pay to use the internet that you already purchase.

5. Please give me more, it's late, and I can't think of anymore off the top of my head. Thanks!!! Oh hey, let's keep this civil and not troll shall we?

 



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I like the dadaism of putting together 1 and 2 (and relative "factual rebuttals") :)



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WereKitten said:
I like the dadaism of putting together 1 and 2 (and relative "factual rebuttals") :)

I have to admit to smiling to myself for exactly the same reason. Perhaps, as you allude, this is some sort of commentary on posts of this type, rather than simply another churning of the console-war butter. Nonsensical performance art as forum post, especially when the topic title is taken into account.



Hapimeses said:
WereKitten said:
I like the dadaism of putting together 1 and 2 (and relative "factual rebuttals") :)

I have to admit to smiling to myself for exactly the same reason. Perhaps, as you allude, this is some sort of commentary on posts of this type, rather than simply another churning of the console-war butter. Nonsensical performance art as forum post, especially when the topic title is taken into account.

Hardly, I asked for an explanation as to why people use these arguments (and I do see them quite often in fanboy wars). I myself, am not proposing said arguments (which are inconsistant because they are used without the "FACT" section I put under each one.



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err

1. it's not cheapper when added up (or used to until slim)... if I don't care about BR, it's worth 0$ to me. so what is left is the HD.... PS3 was 400€ when the premium was 250€... that's not close in price...

2. Maybe with the slim it becomes more expensive... but i'm not even sure that an arcade + 60G HD is more expensive than a PS3 (at least where I shop).

3. well 3 answers here. A) The arcade.... if your console fail you keep your HDD and just get an arcade so the cost is lower for a new console. B) I didn't get one, and there were new 360 versions introduced C) YLOD

4. No argument there... the only reason I justified it is because the 360 was so much cheaper than the PS3 that it paid for a few years of live... (I got a great bundle).

 

 

 

edit: oh you wanted reasons why they are used.... I said why they are wrong... I don't see any reasons why they could be used besides blind faith for 1 and 2... 3 and 4 sure...



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Hephaestos said:
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1. it's not cheapper when added up (or used to until slim)... if I don't care about BR, it's worth 0$ to me. so what is left is the HD.... PS3 was 400€ when the premium was 250€... that's not close in price...

2. Maybe with the slim it becomes more expensive... but i'm not even sure that an arcade + 60G HD is more expensive than a PS3 (at least where I shop).

3. well 3 answers here. A) The arcade.... if your console fail you keep your HDD and just get an arcade so the cost is lower for a new console. B) I didn't get one, and there were new 360 versions introduced C) YLOD

4. No argument there... the only reason I justified it is because the 360 was so much cheaper than the PS3 that it paid for a few years of live... (I got a great bundle).

1. Yes it is, if you buy four wireless controllers, get the WiFi adapter, a 12gig hard drive, and an HDMI cable (all brand new...and am I missing anything?) for the 360...I can't be bothered to do the math right now because I'm heading off to bed, but I do know if you bought all that used (no WiFi and a 20G HD instead of a 120G) it came out to be less than $160.00 And for the PS3 you just need to buy four controllers and a 120 gig hard drive (not proprietary)

2. See above comment.

3. You fail to see the point I was making, PS3 fanboys love to bring up the RROD, but then guess what, even with the RROD the 360 has substantual ground over the PS3 in terms of total sales, so the fanboys are just pointing out a console that has had a horrible falure rate in the past, decimated their preciouse console.

4. Live is a personal choice, I won't fault anybody for not wanting to buy it...but I will rip them apart if they use that idiotic argument to justify them not buying it...I mean, c'mon, that just insaults my intelegance.



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ironman said:

FACT: Even XBL uses servers to match people together, you are paying to use those servers (along with other fun little things that come with Gold) Even free Xbox linking programs like XBC use servers to network Xbox's together as a P2P network. What you though that just magically happened? Besides, if paying for the live services are a crime, so is paying for online porn and video streaming services, after all, they all make you pay to use the internet that you already purchase.

I'm pretty sure PSN uses servers too. Don't quote me on that. And you really gotta get a better argument than the video streaming. You're not paying for the streaming. You're paying for the video. If you bought the video then gave it to them and then they charged you it would be the same thing. That being said I would pay for Live if I had a 360 so it doesn't really matter to me. But just get a better argument for it than that.



JerCotter7 said:
ironman said:

FACT: Even XBL uses servers to match people together, you are paying to use those servers (along with other fun little things that come with Gold) Even free Xbox linking programs like XBC use servers to network Xbox's together as a P2P network. What you though that just magically happened? Besides, if paying for the live services are a crime, so is paying for online porn and video streaming services, after all, they all make you pay to use the internet that you already purchase.

I'm pretty sure PSN uses servers too. Don't quote me on that. And you really gotta get a better argument than the video streaming. You're not paying for the streaming. You're paying for the video. If you bought the video then gave it to them and then they charged you it would be the same thing. That being said I would pay for Live if I had a 360 so it doesn't really matter to me. But just get a better argument for it than that.

Umm... Yes you are? IF you stream a video from a video service, doesn't it cost them bandwidth?

Doesn't your money help go towards paying for bandwidth?

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