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zuvuyeay on 22 October 2009

@scifiboy....

my point is that whites come from europe.......simple fact...

if you are british living in britain you have british rights.....same as any country around the world......nothing to do with race....

i'm not against the individual person.........i'm not sure what we are discussing here....



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highwaystar101 on 22 October 2009
Kantor said:
I think it's nice that three parties who seem to disagree with each other on everything were able to put aside their differences (mostly) and own Nick Griffin for an hour

I loved how Straw (was it Straw) linked the topic which was supposed to be a departure from BNP-bashing, back to BNP-bashing.

Yes it was Straw. I thought that was "creative" how he managed to criticise the BNP over Steven Gately's death, only a politician could do that.



phinch1 on 22 October 2009
SciFiBoy said:
highwaystar101 said:
kowenicki said:
@scifiboy

I thought that justification was ridiculous actually, student union nonsense.

To deny there is a major issue to be addressed with immigration is daft and blind. The black guy in the suit just asked a very good question. The point needs to be addressed, not glossed over simply because it is a taboo subject.

The problem with immigration is that many unskilled immigrants come to our country through unfortunate circumstances such as poverty and war. These people cannot contribute to the country very easily due to their situation. This is unfortunate, but it takes up a large portion of immigrants.

A closed door system wouldn't work, it would be absurd. The solution imo would be to screen an immigrants motivation and potential contribution. EU migrant workers are totally fine, because they come here solely to work and contribute and it's beneficial to our economy to allow them to do so. From a more international view a person should be judged on what they can contribute, allowing them to immigrate over here for skilled labour, relationships or education. A lot of immigrants come here though through unfortunate circumstances like poverty, but it is necessary to just be tough and say "We sympathise with you, but we can't help you all" and tell them they can't come here.

That's just my view though, a more stringent screening process based on what they can offer us as opposed to what we can offer them. The good thing about this system is that race is not a factor and so it is fair and balanced.

and where do the asylum seekers go?

back to there country of origin? to be raped or mudered?

im not disagreeing entirely, im simply asking what you think we do with people who dont meet our "criteria"

rape and murder happens in any country, Is England rape and murder free? asylum seekers cross MANY safe countries before entering ours. last week a number of failed asylum seekers where flown back iraq, when they got there iraq didnt want them because they where criminals, so we had to take them back! how discusting is that, the Labour party has no intention of capping asylum seekers, jack straw on question time just had avoided the question 3 times when asked about how they where handeling imigration.

And the people that Don't meet our criteria? define critira and i will try and answer it





SciFiBoy on 22 October 2009
zuvuyeay said:
@scifiboy....

my point is that whites come from europe.......simple fact...

if you are british living in britain you have british rights.....same as any country around the world......nothing to do with race....

i'm not against the individual person.........i'm not sure what we are discussing here....

im 3/4 English and 1/4 Irish actually

a BLACK or ASIAN British person has the same rights...and so they should



SciFiBoy on 22 October 2009
phinch1 said:
SciFiBoy said:
highwaystar101 said:
kowenicki said:
@scifiboy

I thought that justification was ridiculous actually, student union nonsense.

To deny there is a major issue to be addressed with immigration is daft and blind. The black guy in the suit just asked a very good question. The point needs to be addressed, not glossed over simply because it is a taboo subject.

The problem with immigration is that many unskilled immigrants come to our country through unfortunate circumstances such as poverty and war. These people cannot contribute to the country very easily due to their situation. This is unfortunate, but it takes up a large portion of immigrants.

A closed door system wouldn't work, it would be absurd. The solution imo would be to screen an immigrants motivation and potential contribution. EU migrant workers are totally fine, because they come here solely to work and contribute and it's beneficial to our economy to allow them to do so. From a more international view a person should be judged on what they can contribute, allowing them to immigrate over here for skilled labour, relationships or education. A lot of immigrants come here though through unfortunate circumstances like poverty, but it is necessary to just be tough and say "We sympathise with you, but we can't help you all" and tell them they can't come here.

That's just my view though, a more stringent screening process based on what they can offer us as opposed to what we can offer them. The good thing about this system is that race is not a factor and so it is fair and balanced.

and where do the asylum seekers go?

back to there country of origin? to be raped or mudered?

im not disagreeing entirely, im simply asking what you think we do with people who dont meet our "criteria"

rape and murder happens in any country, Is England rape and murder free? asylum seekers cross MANY safe countries before entering ours. last week a number of failed asylum seekers where flown back iraq, when they got there iraq didnt want them because they where criminals, so we had to take them back! how discusting is that, the Labour party has no intention of capping asylum seekers, jack straw on question time just had avoided the question 3 times when asked about how they where handeling imigration.

And the people that Don't meet our criteria? define critira and i will try and answer it



by criteria I meant the LABOUR governments new points system...

so you would send someone to be tortured in Iran rather than have 1 more person living here who doesnt fit your definition of British?



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SamuelRSmith on 22 October 2009

A great day for British democracy.



phinch1 on 22 October 2009
SciFiBoy said:
phinch1 said:
SciFiBoy said:
highwaystar101 said:
kowenicki said:
@scifiboy

I thought that justification was ridiculous actually, student union nonsense.

To deny there is a major issue to be addressed with immigration is daft and blind. The black guy in the suit just asked a very good question. The point needs to be addressed, not glossed over simply because it is a taboo subject.

The problem with immigration is that many unskilled immigrants come to our country through unfortunate circumstances such as poverty and war. These people cannot contribute to the country very easily due to their situation. This is unfortunate, but it takes up a large portion of immigrants.

A closed door system wouldn't work, it would be absurd. The solution imo would be to screen an immigrants motivation and potential contribution. EU migrant workers are totally fine, because they come here solely to work and contribute and it's beneficial to our economy to allow them to do so. From a more international view a person should be judged on what they can contribute, allowing them to immigrate over here for skilled labour, relationships or education. A lot of immigrants come here though through unfortunate circumstances like poverty, but it is necessary to just be tough and say "We sympathise with you, but we can't help you all" and tell them they can't come here.

That's just my view though, a more stringent screening process based on what they can offer us as opposed to what we can offer them. The good thing about this system is that race is not a factor and so it is fair and balanced.

and where do the asylum seekers go?

back to there country of origin? to be raped or mudered?

im not disagreeing entirely, im simply asking what you think we do with people who dont meet our "criteria"

rape and murder happens in any country, Is England rape and murder free? asylum seekers cross MANY safe countries before entering ours. last week a number of failed asylum seekers where flown back iraq, when they got there iraq didnt want them because they where criminals, so we had to take them back! how discusting is that, the Labour party has no intention of capping asylum seekers, jack straw on question time just had avoided the question 3 times when asked about how they where handeling imigration.

And the people that Don't meet our criteria? define critira and i will try and answer it



by criteria I meant the LABOUR governments new points system...

so you would send someone to be tortured in Iran rather than have 1 more person living here who doesnt fit your definition of British?

how do you know what my definition of British is if i never gave my view on it?

How do you know that every asylum seeker is in danger? what where the italians construction workers in danger in their own country? when they where working here for £4 and hour when British consturction workers where getting laid off, where they in danger of a bull perhaps?

whats are pols and slovakiens in danger of?



Kantor on 22 October 2009
zuvuyeay said:
@scifiboy....

my point is that whites come from europe.......simple fact...

if you are british living in britain you have british rights.....same as any country around the world......nothing to do with race....

i'm not against the individual person.........i'm not sure what we are discussing here....

So you don't believe in the Nick Griffin's "indigenous" crap?

Bonnie Greer was correct in that all humans (or most) came from Africa. Some moved North after the Ice Age, and their skin became paler. So, yes, the people from Europe were white.

The whole idea of "indigenous people of Britain" is ridiculous, anyway. There are very few purely British people left, pretty much every British person, no matter their race, has foreign blood in them. That doesn't make them any more or less British than an "indigenous" Brit, or somebody originally from, say, India, who has lived in Britain all their life. This is an ideology shared by the majority of the nation, which Nick Griffin, the racist dick, disagrees with.



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SciFiBoy on 22 October 2009
phinch1 said:
SciFiBoy said:
phinch1 said:
SciFiBoy said:

and where do the asylum seekers go?

back to there country of origin? to be raped or mudered?

im not disagreeing entirely, im simply asking what you think we do with people who dont meet our "criteria"

rape and murder happens in any country, Is England rape and murder free? asylum seekers cross MANY safe countries before entering ours. last week a number of failed asylum seekers where flown back iraq, when they got there iraq didnt want them because they where criminals, so we had to take them back! how discusting is that, the Labour party has no intention of capping asylum seekers, jack straw on question time just had avoided the question 3 times when asked about how they where handeling imigration.

And the people that Don't meet our criteria? define critira and i will try and answer it



by criteria I meant the LABOUR governments new points system...

so you would send someone to be tortured in Iran rather than have 1 more person living here who doesnt fit your definition of British?

how do you know what my definition of British is if i never gave my view on it?

How do you know that every asylum seeker is in danger? what where the italians construction workers in danger in their own country? when they where working here for £4 and hour when British consturction workers where getting laid off, where they in danger of a bull perhaps?

whats are pols and slovakiens in danger of?

they do jobs British people dont want to do or do badly, many only stay short term to improve there life situation in there home nation (ecenomic migrants)



highwaystar101 on 22 October 2009
SamuelRSmith said:
A great day for British democracy.

A great day indeed.