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Forums - Gaming - The reality of DVD vs Blu Ray vs Digital Distibution. As of October 20 2009

I can see it's covered but when I saw the link in the OP I thought, hey, where's the source. So I checked the Web and it just doesn't add up. BD is actually doing quite well.

"In the first half of 2009, sales of Blu-ray discs rose 91 percent, while Blu-ray hardware sales grew nearly 25 percent and surpassed two million units, according to DEG."

http://www.cepro.com/article/blu_ray_sales_up_83_in_2009/



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Selnor, Live is not a big as you think when it comes to movies, Itunes owns music and movies, Amazon is also pretty big.



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Homeroids said:
I can see it's covered but when I saw the link in the OP I thought, hey, where's the source. So I checked the Web and it just doesn't add up. BD is actually doing quite well.

"In the first half of 2009, sales of Blu-ray discs rose 91 percent, while Blu-ray hardware sales grew nearly 25 percent and surpassed two million units, according to DEG."

http://www.cepro.com/article/blu_ray_sales_up_83_in_2009/

There is a problem with the net having drastically different numbers all over for BluRay. All hardware reports dont include 360 as a dvd player but do include PS3 as a bluray player.

Some BluRay disc sales include blank recordable discs others dont. The DEG for this year is just BluRay Movie sales. So these figures in the OP are correct for movie sales across the 3 mediums.

There is another site called BluRay stats which only base it's figures off of top 20. Where BluRay is currently 8%. But agian doen't include the whole range.



@ Selnor

You're not making sense. Of course sites don't include the 360 as a DVD player. The DVD hardware market is in it's twilight and 99.9% of people that play a DVD would obviously play it on a standard consumer DVD player. That's a no brainer.

Also, the PS3 is a DVD player too. Whilst we are at it, so is the PS2, so is the Xbox 1. It's just a silly point to say hardware reports do not include the 360 as a DVD player.

Now, to include the PS3 as a BD player is different. Some reports do. Some don't. The DEG link clearly shows that the PS3 is included, however, we know how many PS3's are out there so it is fairly simple to do the subtraction and know what the standalone BD sales are. They are increasing rapidly. To include the PS3 as a BD player is different because the BD market is in it's infancy (not it's twilight) and it's obvious to anyone that the PS3 has a huge impact on that market. It will not as time goes by.

Furthermore, to include the PS3 as a BD player opens up unsustainable arguments about whether people use the PS3 as their primary BD player. I can give arguments for and against.

I do know this - the PS3 is still rated as one of the best BD players, certainly one of the best for value, on the market. It's pretty logical that people will buy the PS3 for different reasons. Some will use it 99% of the time as a games console. A few will use it 99% of the time as a BD player. I think many use it for both. Problem is we don't know.

I do know the DEG link shows that BD movie sales have increased dramatically in 2009. Who cares what they are playing them on?



Once you go DD you never go back!

As long as Blu-Ray is more expensive than DVD you will always have a percentage of people that will not upgrade. Believe it or not a majority of people don't even have an HD capable tv so why in gods name would they upgrade?

It will take a while before DD becomes a mainstay for the average consumer. 5-7 years if I had to guess.



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Homeroids said:

@ Selnor

You're not making sense. Of course sites don't include the 360 as a DVD player. The DVD hardware market is in it's twilight and 99.9% of people that play a DVD would obviously play it on a standard consumer DVD player. That's a no brainer.

Also, the PS3 is a DVD player too. Whilst we are at it, so is the PS2, so is the Xbox 1. It's just a silly point to say hardware reports do not include the 360 as a DVD player.

Now, to include the PS3 as a BD player is different. Some reports do. Some don't. The DEG link clearly shows that the PS3 is included, however, we know how many PS3's are out there so it is fairly simple to do the subtraction and know what the standalone BD sales are. They are increasing rapidly. To include the PS3 as a BD player is different because the BD market is in it's infancy (not it's twilight) and it's obvious to anyone that the PS3 has a huge impact on that market. It will not as time goes by.

Furthermore, to include the PS3 as a BD player opens up unsustainable arguments about whether people use the PS3 as their primary BD player. I can give arguments for and against.

I do know this - the PS3 is still rated as one of the best BD players, certainly one of the best for value, on the market. It's pretty logical that people will buy the PS3 for different reasons. Some will use it 99% of the time as a games console. A few will use it 99% of the time as a BD player. I think many use it for both. Problem is we don't know.

I do know the DEG link shows that BD movie sales have increased dramatically in 2009. Who cares what they are playing them on?


Yes BluRay is up. 66%. But it's overall marketshare is now only 4% in software sales.Compared to 76% DVD and 10% for DD.



@selnor

You would grab at any straw to make anything not MS or x360 look bad.

The truth is BR sales were up 91% the first half of this year.

Threads like these can be defined by some as ... it doesn't matter.


http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10288294-1.html

 

Edit: I read this article earlier this year and so far have seen nothing to make me believe otherwise as the current progress of BR confirms.

Of course there are people posting on this forum that know better these analysts.

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu-ray-disc/analyst-blu-ray-reach-74-market-share-2017-14496

 



selnor said:
Homeroids said:
I can see it's covered but when I saw the link in the OP I thought, hey, where's the source. So I checked the Web and it just doesn't add up. BD is actually doing quite well.

"In the first half of 2009, sales of Blu-ray discs rose 91 percent, while Blu-ray hardware sales grew nearly 25 percent and surpassed two million units, according to DEG."

http://www.cepro.com/article/blu_ray_sales_up_83_in_2009/

There is a problem with the net having drastically different numbers all over for BluRay. All hardware reports dont include 360 as a dvd player but do include PS3 as a bluray player.

Some BluRay disc sales include blank recordable discs others dont. The DEG for this year is just BluRay Movie sales. So these figures in the OP are correct for movie sales across the 3 mediums.

There is another site called BluRay stats which only base it's figures off of top 20. Where BluRay is currently 8%. But agian doen't include the whole range.

while i respect you 

Blu-Ray will not be gone with the IDEA that digital download's will be taking over.

the simple truth to the matter.

the IDEA that the majority of the people would throw away their physical collection of DVD's and go all digital is not going to ever happen in any near future. why because most people who buy movies have bought so many and the collection is so large that it would be deemed a waste of money. Thus many people are set in their way's of DVD.

Music is not the same as Movies when it come's to Digital Downloads. watching movies on the go is nice but for a majority of the people it's not even realistic, that's is also one of the reason's why UMD did not do as well. many people do not see the any real advantage of that because to be blunt there's more important things to do than watch a movie on the go.

if you want to talk about digital download player's for Car's?

physical media is trusted because there is less problem's, for many people

one only has to look at what happened recently with T-moble and Microsoft server's for the sidekick to see Many People do not trust Digital Downloads.

the fact that all Blu-Ray player's and optical drive's still play DVD's mean's that Blu-Ray is not going to fade into the night, Blu-ray is not

laser disk

its not

beta max

its not

UMD

Blu-Ray

has 13 of the largest CE optical drive companies that produce the drive's which is pretty much the entire industry, they have been backing the Blu-Ray format since 2002, in its development and evolution. the consumer has weight when it come's to purchase that is true. but also the other truth is the consumer can only buy what's put out on the market also. so if the large companies all decided on a format For HD

WHICH THEY HAVE

AND THAT IS Blu-Ray

then its not going away as long as they keep support, and have you seen any of these large companies that have dropped support for

Blu-Ray?

but ask how many have put greater investment into digital download's , which they have not.

it's very simple in order for Blu-Ray to go away DVD would have to stop selling, and the Majority of people would have to drop DVD and go with DIGITAL DOWNLOAD'S

its most likely never going to happen because many people collect thing's and collector's view digital downloads as valueless

vs' a physical media.



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justinian said:
@selnor

You would grab at any straw to make anything not MS or x360 look bad.

The truth is BR sales were up 91% the first half of this year.

Threads like these can be defined by some as ... it doesn't matter.


http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10288294-1.html

Wy do people hate news when it's against their agenda. Yes it was up then and is up now. But 66% in the last 6 months. Thats a fact. It's also a fact that marketshare is 4%. Why does that bother you. It's a factual OP. Get over it. If you enjoy it continue to enjoy it.



good job both bluray and DD are on ps3.



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