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ShadowSoldier on 22 October 2009
silicon said:
Carl2291 said:
ShadowSoldier said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

Third parties just don't get it, Wii gamers like quality, we have Nintendo, so all that stuff that PS360 fans are willing to stomach just won't fly on the Wii, you want to sell on the Wii you have to be as good or better than Nintendo, you have to bring the fun

You do realize that 360 and PS3 gamers have more quality games then the Wii right? Even when you factor in Exclusives the Wii is last for number of games that have over 90+ on metacritic. Its not about us Stomaching anything, we have an abundance of quality.

When it comes to exclusives, Wii has more AAA exclusives than PS3 and 360.

What makes a title a AAA exclusive?

90+ over Metacritic



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Carl on 22 October 2009
ShadowSoldier said:
Carl2291 said:
ShadowSoldier said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

Third parties just don't get it, Wii gamers like quality, we have Nintendo, so all that stuff that PS360 fans are willing to stomach just won't fly on the Wii, you want to sell on the Wii you have to be as good or better than Nintendo, you have to bring the fun

You do realize that 360 and PS3 gamers have more quality games then the Wii right? Even when you factor in Exclusives the Wii is last for number of games that have over 90+ on metacritic. Its not about us Stomaching anything, we have an abundance of quality.

When it comes to exclusives, Wii has more AAA exclusives than PS3 and 360.

You sure? Im only counting 5. ( I don't count Okami and RE4: Wii exclusives, since I can play them on my PS2) PS360 both have 6 games you can buy at Retail scoring in the 90+ range

If you dont count Okami and RE4, then it is 6. I just counted games that haven't been released on another platform this gen, but i can see why you wouldn't count them.

@silicon. An exclusive game at 90+ on meta/gamerankings (whichever one of those you prefer to use).



                            

ShadowSoldier on 22 October 2009
Carl2291 said:
ShadowSoldier said:
Carl2291 said:
ShadowSoldier said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

Third parties just don't get it, Wii gamers like quality, we have Nintendo, so all that stuff that PS360 fans are willing to stomach just won't fly on the Wii, you want to sell on the Wii you have to be as good or better than Nintendo, you have to bring the fun

You do realize that 360 and PS3 gamers have more quality games then the Wii right? Even when you factor in Exclusives the Wii is last for number of games that have over 90+ on metacritic. Its not about us Stomaching anything, we have an abundance of quality.

When it comes to exclusives, Wii has more AAA exclusives than PS3 and 360.

You sure? Im only counting 5. ( I don't count Okami and RE4: Wii exclusives, since I can play them on my PS2) PS360 both have 6 games you can buy at Retail scoring in the 90+ range

If you dont count Okami and RE4, then it is 6. I just counted games that haven't been released on another platform this gen, but i can see why you wouldn't count them.

@silicon. An exclusive game at 90+ on meta/gamerankings (whichever one of those you prefer to use).

Ahhh I see where we differ, I didnt count Metroid Trilogy for the same reasons and since it's essentially a re-release



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"In video game terms, RPGs are games that involve a form of separate battles taking place with a specialized battle system and the use of a system that increases your power through a form of points.

Sure, what you say is the definition, but the connotation of RPGs is what they are in video games." - dtewi

**Slash** on 22 October 2009

it's there own fault, they dident wanted to take a risk and make a real sequel, they took the easy and fast root with an on-rails shooter.

and now answer teh question for urself :

"how well would an on-rails shooter sell on xbox360 or ps3? exactly not well either"



   

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routsounmanman on 22 October 2009

Just imagine Nintendo announcing Super mario galaxy 3 for PS3/X360. Only instead of regular Mario fare, you get a Soul Calibur Ivy - Peach, a muscle bound Mario, and lots of shooting. Would you buy that?

In the case of Dead Space extraction, something like that happened.



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ShadowSoldier on 22 October 2009

RiiiiiiiiiiGht



Black Women Are The Most Beautiful Women On The Planet.

"In video game terms, RPGs are games that involve a form of separate battles taking place with a specialized battle system and the use of a system that increases your power through a form of points.

Sure, what you say is the definition, but the connotation of RPGs is what they are in video games." - dtewi

KingArthur on 22 October 2009
Carl2291 said:

If you dont count Okami and RE4, then it is 6. I just counted games that haven't been released on another platform this gen, but i can see why you wouldn't count them.

@silicon. An exclusive game at 90+ on meta/gamerankings (whichever one of those you prefer to use).

I counted 3 of them. Super mario galaxy, Smash bros brawl and metroid prime 3. What are the remaining 3?

World of goo?  Twilight princess? Rock band 2? Metroid prime trilogy? MP1&2 are GC games so unless you are counting MP3 twice, wii has only 3 exclusive 90+ games.

Ps3 has 5 90+ exclusive games and 360 has 4.



Avinash_Tyagi on 22 October 2009
ShadowSoldier said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

Third parties just don't get it, Wii gamers like quality, we have Nintendo, so all that stuff that PS360 fans are willing to stomach just won't fly on the Wii, you want to sell on the Wii you have to be as good or better than Nintendo, you have to bring the fun

You do realize that 360 and PS3 gamers have more quality games then the Wii right? Even when you factor in Exclusives the Wii is last for number of games that have over 90+ on metacritic. Its not about us Stomaching anything, we have an abundance of quality.

Reviews, metacritic , do you really think most consumers care about reviews?  Have ever heard of metacritic?  The market doesn't care if a game is highly reviewed, its why games like Wii sports can be poorly reviewed, but be one of the most well recieved games of all time, people had Wii parties because of Wii sports, and cared not one bit whether some reviwer gave it a bad review, those same people would probably get bored of a game like dead space in minutes.



 

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hanafuda on 22 October 2009

'no *poing* sound when you jump = low sells on the Wii'.

lol



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KingArthur on 22 October 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
ShadowSoldier said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:

Third parties just don't get it, Wii gamers like quality, we have Nintendo, so all that stuff that PS360 fans are willing to stomach just won't fly on the Wii, you want to sell on the Wii you have to be as good or better than Nintendo, you have to bring the fun

You do realize that 360 and PS3 gamers have more quality games then the Wii right? Even when you factor in Exclusives the Wii is last for number of games that have over 90+ on metacritic. Its not about us Stomaching anything, we have an abundance of quality.

Reviews, metacritic , do you really think most consumers care about reviews?  Have ever heard of metacritic?  The market doesn't care if a game is highly reviewed, its why games like Wii sports can be poorly reviewed, but be one of the most well recieved games of all time, people had Wii parties because of Wii sports, and cared not one bit whether some reviwer gave it a bad review, those same people would probably get bored of a game like dead space in minutes.

Weren't you banned few hours ago?