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angrypoolman said:
Akvod said:
angrypoolman said:
highwaystar101 said:

Why shouldn't they? You're not allowed to drive it, whether you have the keys or not. You would think that after having to pay $1450 in fees you wouldn't even want to risk it, they are just doing what they believe is best. If anything they are doing you a favour. You obviously can't be trusted with the keys as you were driving whilst banned.

Oh and on a side note, I have very little respect for people who drive drunk, it's a stupid thing to do and I hope you have learnt your lesson and wont do it again. I had three friends that died in a drink driving accident once, not cool.

How is it stupid? I want specifics.

Because it endangers your own life and other people's...

Unless you're feeling suicidal and homicidal, then I don't see what rationale people would have for drinking and driving...

Well it isn't like people drive drunk because it is fun or for the sake of doing it... Would you consider somebody who had a beer or two with their dinner a danger?

0.8% is the US DUI limit and that is too high anyway imo. If you know you are going to have to drive, and drink beers within an hour of doing so, then you are being foolish.



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angrypoolman said:
Akvod said:
angrypoolman said:
highwaystar101 said:

Why shouldn't they? You're not allowed to drive it, whether you have the keys or not. You would think that after having to pay $1450 in fees you wouldn't even want to risk it, they are just doing what they believe is best. If anything they are doing you a favour. You obviously can't be trusted with the keys as you were driving whilst banned.

Oh and on a side note, I have very little respect for people who drive drunk, it's a stupid thing to do and I hope you have learnt your lesson and wont do it again. I had three friends that died in a drink driving accident once, not cool.

How is it stupid? I want specifics.

Because it endangers your own life and other people's...

Unless you're feeling suicidal and homicidal, then I don't see what rationale people would have for drinking and driving...

Well it isn't like people drive drunk because it is fun or for the sake of doing it... Would you consider somebody who had a beer or two with their dinner a danger?

I would consider it a danger if someone was drinking recklessly and were planning on driving... and if they did go out and drive in their state.

Even if you said that there's no intent, it's a matter of accountability. In some accidents, you may have very little power to take action to prevent the event, and in others you would have had the most power. In cases that that the person had the most power and prior knowledge to take action is held accountable (manufactuers and producers being responsible for their products to break, even if they had no intent).

Therefore I see DUI as a case where the driver is accountable.



highwaystar101 said:
angrypoolman said:
highwaystar101 said:

Why shouldn't they? You're not allowed to drive it, whether you have the keys or not. You would think that after having to pay $1450 in fees you wouldn't even want to risk it, they are just doing what they believe is best. If anything they are doing you a favour. You obviously can't be trusted with the keys as you were driving whilst banned.

Oh and on a side note, I have very little respect for people who drive drunk, it's a stupid thing to do and I hope you have learnt your lesson and wont do it again. I had three friends that died in a drink driving accident once, not cool.

How is it stupid? I want specifics.

I hope this was sarcasm.

12,945 American people died from drink driving in 2005 and many many more were left with severe life altering injuries. Only stupid people drink and drive. It's a good way to kill yourself and those around you.

Were those deaths caused specifically because they were drunk? Do you think that it is possible that those deaths could have occured because of some other underlying factor?

I wouldn't go as far to say only stupid people drink and drive. That is a pretty ignorant statement if you ask me.



Akvod said:
angrypoolman said:
Akvod said:
angrypoolman said:
highwaystar101 said:

Why shouldn't they? You're not allowed to drive it, whether you have the keys or not. You would think that after having to pay $1450 in fees you wouldn't even want to risk it, they are just doing what they believe is best. If anything they are doing you a favour. You obviously can't be trusted with the keys as you were driving whilst banned.

Oh and on a side note, I have very little respect for people who drive drunk, it's a stupid thing to do and I hope you have learnt your lesson and wont do it again. I had three friends that died in a drink driving accident once, not cool.

How is it stupid? I want specifics.

Because it endangers your own life and other people's...

Unless you're feeling suicidal and homicidal, then I don't see what rationale people would have for drinking and driving...

Well it isn't like people drive drunk because it is fun or for the sake of doing it... Would you consider somebody who had a beer or two with their dinner a danger?

I would consider it a danger if someone was drinking recklessly and were planning on driving... and if they did go out and drive in their state.

Even if you said that there's no intent, it's a matter of accountability. In some accidents, you may have very little power to take action to prevent the event, and in others you would have had the most power. In cases that that the person had the most power and prior knowledge to take action is held accountable (manufactuers and producers being responsible for their products to break, even if they had no intent).

Therefore I see DUI as a case where the driver is accountable.

What if the drunk person got hit by somebody who ran a red light?

I totally believe in accountability, and that is why I hate how people pin it on drinking. Any accident where a driver is drunk, they have all the blame put on them simply because they were drunk. That is not logical by any means. I think there are other factors to be considered.



angrypoolman said:
highwaystar101 said:
angrypoolman said:
highwaystar101 said:

Why shouldn't they? You're not allowed to drive it, whether you have the keys or not. You would think that after having to pay $1450 in fees you wouldn't even want to risk it, they are just doing what they believe is best. If anything they are doing you a favour. You obviously can't be trusted with the keys as you were driving whilst banned.

Oh and on a side note, I have very little respect for people who drive drunk, it's a stupid thing to do and I hope you have learnt your lesson and wont do it again. I had three friends that died in a drink driving accident once, not cool.

How is it stupid? I want specifics.

I hope this was sarcasm.

12,945 American people died from drink driving in 2005 and many many more were left with severe life altering injuries. Only stupid people drink and drive. It's a good way to kill yourself and those around you.

Were those deaths caused specifically because they were drunk? Do you think that it is possible that those deaths could have occured because of some other underlying factor?

I wouldn't go as far to say only stupid people drink and drive. That is a pretty ignorant statement if you ask me.


I'm sorry, what the f*ck are smoking and can I have some?

How is it ignorant? The figure was for deaths caused by drink driving, y'know driving whilst drunk. Have you ever tried driving drunk? It's a good way to kill yourself because you have severely reduced reaction times and less control over your actions.

I'm so glad that none of my friends drive drunk, unfortunately the reason is because we lost three friends in a drink driving incident (Driver driving on the wrong side of the road at 80Mph) that made us realise just how fatal drink driving can be.



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angrypoolman said:
Akvod said:
angrypoolman said:
Akvod said:
angrypoolman said:
highwaystar101 said:

Why shouldn't they? You're not allowed to drive it, whether you have the keys or not. You would think that after having to pay $1450 in fees you wouldn't even want to risk it, they are just doing what they believe is best. If anything they are doing you a favour. You obviously can't be trusted with the keys as you were driving whilst banned.

Oh and on a side note, I have very little respect for people who drive drunk, it's a stupid thing to do and I hope you have learnt your lesson and wont do it again. I had three friends that died in a drink driving accident once, not cool.

How is it stupid? I want specifics.

Because it endangers your own life and other people's...

Unless you're feeling suicidal and homicidal, then I don't see what rationale people would have for drinking and driving...

Well it isn't like people drive drunk because it is fun or for the sake of doing it... Would you consider somebody who had a beer or two with their dinner a danger?

I would consider it a danger if someone was drinking recklessly and were planning on driving... and if they did go out and drive in their state.

Even if you said that there's no intent, it's a matter of accountability. In some accidents, you may have very little power to take action to prevent the event, and in others you would have had the most power. In cases that that the person had the most power and prior knowledge to take action is held accountable (manufactuers and producers being responsible for their products to break, even if they had no intent).

Therefore I see DUI as a case where the driver is accountable.

What if the drunk person got hit by somebody who ran a red light?

I totally believe in accountability, and that is why I hate how people pin it on drinking. Any accident where a driver is drunk, they have all the blame put on them simply because they were drunk. That is not logical by any means. I think there are other factors to be considered.

I didn't mention the law at all. I simply said that to drink and drive is dangerous and stupid IMHO. As for that example, I would guess that both parties would be given a certain % of accountability and what not. The people who calculate that have gone to years of law school and whatnot, and it's a pain in the ass to think about it.

Stop trying to make every little fucking possibility and thinking in absolutes. I'm just being laid back and giving a common sense response. Unless you want to delve into the complicated, go talk to the law makers and judges. Jesus, why are we arguing about whether or not drinking and driving is dangerous and stupid?



highwaystar101 said:
angrypoolman said:
highwaystar101 said:
angrypoolman said:
highwaystar101 said:

Why shouldn't they? You're not allowed to drive it, whether you have the keys or not. You would think that after having to pay $1450 in fees you wouldn't even want to risk it, they are just doing what they believe is best. If anything they are doing you a favour. You obviously can't be trusted with the keys as you were driving whilst banned.

Oh and on a side note, I have very little respect for people who drive drunk, it's a stupid thing to do and I hope you have learnt your lesson and wont do it again. I had three friends that died in a drink driving accident once, not cool.

How is it stupid? I want specifics.

I hope this was sarcasm.

12,945 American people died from drink driving in 2005 and many many more were left with severe life altering injuries. Only stupid people drink and drive. It's a good way to kill yourself and those around you.

Were those deaths caused specifically because they were drunk? Do you think that it is possible that those deaths could have occured because of some other underlying factor?

I wouldn't go as far to say only stupid people drink and drive. That is a pretty ignorant statement if you ask me.


I'm sorry, what the f*ck are smoking and can I have some?

How is it ignorant? The figure was for deaths caused by drink driving, y'know driving whilst drunk. Have you ever tried driving drunk? It's a good way to kill yourself because you have severely reduced reaction times and less control over your actions.

I'm so glad that none of my friends drive drunk, unfortunately the reason is because we lost three friends in a drink driving incident (Driver driving on the wrong side of the road at 80Mph) that made us realise just how fatal drink driving can be.

Uhh.. So let me get this straight.

Driver was driving on wrong side of road at 80mph

Driver was drunk

Conclusion: Driving drunk makes you drive on wrong side of road at 80 mph.

Do you think it's possible that this person was just a fucking retard who shouldn't be trusted to drive in the first place?



Here you go check this link http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html

currently 37% of all driving fatalities are caused directly from drink driving. from 1982 to 2003 that figure went from 60% to 40%, which hopefully shows that drivers are becoming more responsible for their actions.

 

 



Akvod said:
angrypoolman said:
Akvod said:
angrypoolman said:
Akvod said:
angrypoolman said:
highwaystar101 said:

Why shouldn't they? You're not allowed to drive it, whether you have the keys or not. You would think that after having to pay $1450 in fees you wouldn't even want to risk it, they are just doing what they believe is best. If anything they are doing you a favour. You obviously can't be trusted with the keys as you were driving whilst banned.

Oh and on a side note, I have very little respect for people who drive drunk, it's a stupid thing to do and I hope you have learnt your lesson and wont do it again. I had three friends that died in a drink driving accident once, not cool.

How is it stupid? I want specifics.

Because it endangers your own life and other people's...

Unless you're feeling suicidal and homicidal, then I don't see what rationale people would have for drinking and driving...

Well it isn't like people drive drunk because it is fun or for the sake of doing it... Would you consider somebody who had a beer or two with their dinner a danger?

I would consider it a danger if someone was drinking recklessly and were planning on driving... and if they did go out and drive in their state.

Even if you said that there's no intent, it's a matter of accountability. In some accidents, you may have very little power to take action to prevent the event, and in others you would have had the most power. In cases that that the person had the most power and prior knowledge to take action is held accountable (manufactuers and producers being responsible for their products to break, even if they had no intent).

Therefore I see DUI as a case where the driver is accountable.

What if the drunk person got hit by somebody who ran a red light?

I totally believe in accountability, and that is why I hate how people pin it on drinking. Any accident where a driver is drunk, they have all the blame put on them simply because they were drunk. That is not logical by any means. I think there are other factors to be considered.

I didn't mention the law at all. I simply said that to drink and drive is dangerous and stupid IMHO. As for that example, I would guess that both parties would be given a certain % of accountability and what not. The people who calculate that have gone to years of law school and whatnot, and it's a pain in the ass to think about it.

Stop trying to make every little fucking possibility and thinking in absolutes. I'm just being laid back and giving a common sense response. Unless you want to delve into the complicated, go talk to the law makers and judges. Jesus, why are we arguing about whether or not drinking and driving is dangerous and stupid?

Sorry, maybe we shouldn't talk about this anymore.

I wasn't trying to start an argument, I just was trying to get some answers and see what you guys think. I thought I could be open minded about this situation, but it turns out I cannot. I will just get flamed to death.

Whatever, it's just an internet forum.



angrypoolman said:
highwaystar101 said:
angrypoolman said:

Were those deaths caused specifically because they were drunk? Do you think that it is possible that those deaths could have occured because of some other underlying factor?

I wouldn't go as far to say only stupid people drink and drive. That is a pretty ignorant statement if you ask me.


I'm sorry, what the f*ck are smoking and can I have some?

How is it ignorant? The figure was for deaths caused by drink driving, y'know driving whilst drunk. Have you ever tried driving drunk? It's a good way to kill yourself because you have severely reduced reaction times and less control over your actions.

I'm so glad that none of my friends drive drunk, unfortunately the reason is because we lost three friends in a drink driving incident (Driver driving on the wrong side of the road at 80Mph) that made us realise just how fatal drink driving can be.

Uhh.. So let me get this straight.

Driver was driving on wrong side of road at 80mph

Driver was drunk

Conclusion: Driving drunk makes you drive on wrong side of road at 80 mph.

Do you think it's possible that this person was just a fucking retard who shouldn't be trusted to drive in the first place?

*Claps hands*

Well done, that's exactly what I'm saying. The driver was drunk and he drove the wrong side of the road full blast because his drunken state made him think it was a good idea. Like you think a lot of stupid ideas are good when you are drunk.