Honestly speaking, Activision will look at the petition and start laughing. They know people will continue to buy the product they offer.

Now I know some people are and will be discouraged from buying the product but that's where the new $10 higher price comes in.

PC gamers can not dream of shunning activision blizzard, they own the market and will continue to own it. As long as Call of Duty franchise world of warcraft and starcraft exist.

There's now 72k signatures on the petition, which means 12k more people signed in the last 4 hours!

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw

Acevil said: Honestly speaking, Activision will look at the petition and start laughing. They know people will continue to buy the product they offer. Now I know some people are and will be discouraged from buying the product but that's where the new $10 higher price comes in. PC gamers can not dream of shunning activision blizzard, they own the market and will continue to own it. As long as Call of Duty franchise world of warcraft and starcraft exist.

Negative, sir.

 

 You have to understand, that this is not the case for the CoD or FPS PC gaming community. Not having a dedicated server equate not having a reason to play, at least on PC. It is true that they will still sell millions to 360 and ps3 owners and do not need the PC gamers, and that is fine. It is their choice, to tell PC gamers to basically screw off. But among PC gamers, this is not going to lose some business, it will lose most business.

 Its easy for someone who isnt a PC FPS gamer to write this off, but I honestly doubt a double-digit percentage of the folk who bought CoD 4 on PC , bought it for the single player.

 Luckily Activision doesnt own the market, thankfully there are plenty of AAA FPS titles available on PC. EA\DICE has already confirmed continuing dedicated server support for example. FPS players who need a new game will either take another look at WaW or chill until the next BF game.

 

Shame Activision. I hope MW2 sells far lower than expected.

So now that the weekend is over and working folk are all getting a hang of the news this is really spreading. Good.

Xelloss said: Acevil said: Honestly speaking, Activision will look at the petition and start laughing. They know people will continue to buy the product they offer. Now I know some people are and will be discouraged from buying the product but that's where the new $10 higher price comes in. PC gamers can not dream of shunning activision blizzard, they own the market and will continue to own it. As long as Call of Duty franchise world of warcraft and starcraft exist. Negative, sir.    You have to understand, that this is not the case for the CoD or FPS PC gaming community. Not having a dedicated server equate not having a reason to play, at least on PC. It is true that they will still sell millions to 360 and ps3 owners and do not need the PC gamers, and that is fine. It is their choice, to tell PC gamers to basically screw off. But among PC gamers, this is not going to lose some business, it will lose most business.  Its easy for someone who isnt a PC FPS gamer to write this off, but I honestly doubt a double-digit percentage of the folk who bought CoD 4 on PC , bought it for the single player.  Luckily Activision doesnt own the market, thankfully there are plenty of AAA FPS titles available on PC. EADICE has already confirmed continuing dedicated server support for example. FPS players who need a new game will either take another look at WaW or chill until the next BF game.

I still expect a large audience will buy this game for the PC, yes it will be obviously lower, but do you honestly expect this to not appear on the top 10 list of that mouth and even possibly that year? Most PC gamers are not like yourself and shio, they can be as casual as the consoles owners and they will still eat shit up. 

Other issues in the past like DRM did not stop products from reaching decent sales, and honestly speaking this will blow over.

Also I was talking about acitivision blizzard owning the market. They still have a huge percentage of revenue in the PC market. I know better games exist for the PC, hell one could argue that Counter Strike and Team Fortress are the best FPS multiplayer games out there. Aion is a better MMO than World of Warcraft. Age of Empire and the original Command and Conquer series better than Starcraft (IMO).

Activision-Blizzard is heartless as it comes now, and the sad part is I think nothing can stop them. In the end they are one of the companies that are really sucessful similar to the old asshole EA. New EA is awesome, but they don't seem to be sucessful as they were before. 

Also Shio I am starting to get into western RPGs and that market has always been PC, PM a recommandation list if possible. I know we don't see eye to eye always, but I would really love it if I have a good starting list.

Haha, I found a pretty hilarious quote from an obvious Xbot.

"ha ha ha pc version of mw2 dosnt get a dedicated server,thank god that i have a 360"

Some people are just so ignorant it hurts...

Correct, I do not expect this title to reach top 10 for the year in the slightest, not on PC. Because this is not a casual vs hardcore thing, having dedicated servers and communities and stable places to play actually enable the casual gamers as much or more than the hardcore FPS gamers.

In my experience, over many years in the community, is multiplayer games sell well when they get word of mouth.. when people you know, either online or off talk about a game and say "come play with me/us". Well, in MW this will not be happening on the PC platform because nearly everyone who plays FPS games at all will be so sorely dissapointed. And you wont be able to have your friends just come play.

People on PC will not typically be able to play a game with decent latency, let alone decent latency with their online friends.. no large servers, just peer to peer listen servers... I really do not think many in the PC crowd will eat this game up, or go on playing it. It certainly will not get the viral effect in clan/guild chats and ventrillos across the world, where a few ppl get a game, say how great it is, and get more and more people to come play. ( like happened with CS, BF2, L4D, etc)

I do think that there is a decent chunk of people who may just get the console version instead, so perhaps it wont be lost sale for IW.... but its actually the casuals who are being most turned-off. No dedicated server = hassle and effort to find a decent , stable game that isnt massively laggy. The frustrated and disillusioned casual fan, who does not play competitively or even play tons of hours but likes playing in a stable community with maps, rules and friends that they are comfortable with is the reason this ploy by IW will backfire.

Xboxes are cheap compared to PCs capable of playing new FPS games... I think it is safe to say that the vast majority of people who like console style online are already playing their FPS on consoles.

I don't think the supposed "uninformed" customers are so ignorant about dedicated servers and I also believe (and hope)! sales will be significantly lower.

Xelloss said: Correct, I do not expect this title to reach top 10 for the year in the slightest, not on PC. Because this is not a casual vs hardcore thing, having dedicated servers and communities and stable places to play actually enable the casual gamers as much or more than the hardcore FPS gamers. In my experience, over many years in the community, is multiplayer games sell well when they get word of mouth.. when people you know, either online or off talk about a game and say "come play with me/us". Well, in MW this will not be happening on the PC platform because nearly everyone who plays FPS games at all will be so sorely dissapointed. And you wont be able to have your friends just come play. People on PC will not typically be able to play a game with decent latency, let alone decent latency with their online friends.. no large servers, just peer to peer listen servers... I really do not think many in the PC crowd will eat this game up, or go on playing it. It certainly will not get the viral effect in clan/guild chats and ventrillos across the world, where a few ppl get a game, say how great it is, and get more and more people to come play. ( like happened with CS, BF2, L4D, etc) I do think that there is a decent chunk of people who may just get the console version instead, so perhaps it wont be lost sale for IW.... but its actually the casuals who are being most turned-off. No dedicated server = hassle and effort to find a decent , stable game that isnt massively laggy. The frustrated and disillusioned casual fan, who does not play competitively or even play tons of hours but likes playing in a stable community with maps, rules and friends that they are comfortable with is the reason this ploy by IW will backfire. Xboxes are cheap compared to PCs capable of playing new FPS games... I think it is safe to say that the vast majority of people who like console style online are already playing their FPS on consoles.

Interesting point of view, I still think majority will be suckered in, based on perception of the first modern warfare. I personally do not truly know how Call of Duty 4 or World at War are percieved on the PC front, so one would have to clear that up for me. I am under the perception that it was favorable reaction. 

I am starting to see the big picture, but the fourth paragraph describes something that might happen after the casual audience purchases the game with expectations that will not be matched.What I can see is the next version of Call of Duty doing horribly based on what you described in the fourth paragraph. 

Personally I would want to know real data for PC games. It will be interesting to see how this will do in the first week, month and year. If what you described to be true, it will have horrible month and year. Remember I still believe a certain audience will mistakenly buy the game in the first week. 

I'm just skepitical of certain things, given this is not the market that I know too much about. 

Finally this is your second post? Welcome to vgchartz.

@Salaminizer One can truely hope that sales are significantly lower, but this might result in activision pointing fingures at the PC gaming crowd, like they did with Call of Duty 4 and Piracy.