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superchunk on 20 October 2009
vlad321 said:
superchunk said:
vlad321 said:
superchunk said:
KungKras said:
So.... It's gonna be like a console game on PC?

WTH DO THEY THINK I GAME ON PC FOR?!?!?!

Sorry, but consoles is where da money is at. Piracy has just about killed the market viability on PCs.

That's actually false. How do truly good games like Valve and Blizzard games manage to sell such rediculous numbers? That's just because they are GOOD games. PC players have a much higher stndard than console players when it comes to games. Make a good game and it will be bought, fail and it will not or it will be pirated many times.

OR there's been a trend building up where more and more PC heavy genres are becoming more prelavent on consoles and now the console versions are actually getting better treatment. To me I see it as the consoles are a safer bet with better projections and far less piracy concerns.

Sure there is a much larger PC pool of viable consumers, however, every non-monthly fee generated game, has a VERY high % of piracy, even the good games. Whereas its almost zero on consoles and its easier to develop on consoles as they are a single architecture.

Yes more genres are going to consoles, that doesnt mean the games don't suck compared to the genre on the PC. This is especially true of Shooters. As I see it it's easier to sell crap on the consoles than on the PC.

That I have no argument with. I personally prefer many games on PC than consoles, however, given wiimote+ capabilities w/ 360 online/graphics I would probably choose the console version if they had the same other features. Simply a better overall experience.



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superchunk on 20 October 2009
shio said:
superchunk said:
vlad321 said:
superchunk said:
KungKras said:
So.... It's gonna be like a console game on PC?

WTH DO THEY THINK I GAME ON PC FOR?!?!?!

Sorry, but consoles is where da money is at. Piracy has just about killed the market viability on PCs.

That's actually false. How do truly good games like Valve and Blizzard games manage to sell such rediculous numbers? That's just because they are GOOD games. PC players have a much higher stndard than console players when it comes to games. Make a good game and it will be bought, fail and it will not or it will be pirated many times.

OR there's been a trend building up where more and more PC heavy genres are becoming more prelavent on consoles and now the console versions are actually getting better treatment. To me I see it as the consoles are a safer bet with better projections and far less piracy concerns.

Sure there is a much larger PC pool of viable consumers, however, every non-monthly fee generated game, has a VERY high % of piracy, even the good games. Whereas its almost zero on consoles and its easier to develop on consoles as they are a single architecture.

Dude, Shooters are nowhere near as popular on Consoles as they are on PC, and that's the genre that consoles got the most from PC.

 

Keyword is "trend". It doesn't happen overnight.



jefforange89 on 20 October 2009

tl;dr: we dumbed the game down for the scrubs



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vlad321 on 20 October 2009
superchunk said:
vlad321 said:
superchunk said:
vlad321 said:
superchunk said:
KungKras said:
So.... It's gonna be like a console game on PC?

WTH DO THEY THINK I GAME ON PC FOR?!?!?!

Sorry, but consoles is where da money is at. Piracy has just about killed the market viability on PCs.

That's actually false. How do truly good games like Valve and Blizzard games manage to sell such rediculous numbers? That's just because they are GOOD games. PC players have a much higher stndard than console players when it comes to games. Make a good game and it will be bought, fail and it will not or it will be pirated many times.

OR there's been a trend building up where more and more PC heavy genres are becoming more prelavent on consoles and now the console versions are actually getting better treatment. To me I see it as the consoles are a safer bet with better projections and far less piracy concerns.

Sure there is a much larger PC pool of viable consumers, however, every non-monthly fee generated game, has a VERY high % of piracy, even the good games. Whereas its almost zero on consoles and its easier to develop on consoles as they are a single architecture.

Yes more genres are going to consoles, that doesnt mean the games don't suck compared to the genre on the PC. This is especially true of Shooters. As I see it it's easier to sell crap on the consoles than on the PC.

That I have no argument with. I personally prefer many games on PC than consoles, however, given wiimote+ capabilities w/ 360 online/graphics I would probably choose the console version if they had the same other features. Simply a better overall experience.

Yes agreed. There is no reason to get this game n the PC, it already sounds like it sucks, and this crap dded with a levelling system = fail game.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 on 20 October 2009
jefforange89 said:
tl;dr: we dumbed the game down for the scrubs

I thought that's why they had consoles..... why are they doing this on the PC too?



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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shio on 20 October 2009

The petition has now been signed by over 112k people. Will it reach 200k by the end of the week?

 

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw



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Acevil on 20 October 2009
vlad321 said:
jefforange89 said:
tl;dr: we dumbed the game down for the scrubs

I thought that's why they had consoles..... why are they doing this on the PC too?

Is that all you can do, is insult consoles?

Also Shio did you see my request?



 

vlad321 on 20 October 2009
Acevil said:
vlad321 said:
jefforange89 said:
tl;dr: we dumbed the game down for the scrubs

I thought that's why they had consoles..... why are they doing this on the PC too?

Is that all you can do, is insult consoles?

Also Shio did you see my request?

Well they ruin PC games... so yeah?



Tag(thx fkusumot) - "Yet again I completely fail to see your point..."

HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

Acevil on 21 October 2009
vlad321 said:
Acevil said:
vlad321 said:
jefforange89 said:
tl;dr: we dumbed the game down for the scrubs

I thought that's why they had consoles..... why are they doing this on the PC too?

Is that all you can do, is insult consoles?

Also Shio did you see my request?

Well they ruin PC games... so yeah?

Why not blame the developers for dumbing it down, why not blame piracy for exclusives having to go to the consoles.

Why is it necessary to blame the "consoles".

I guess I am not any different than you really. I blame graphic progression for games being dull and boring. Games these days are about being graphically strong, story might suck but if graphics and CGI are in there it is awesome.

Given I have gained some hopes with Witcher and Demon Souls. The only game that I liked that focused on graphics and CGI was Uncharted 2 but that game had fun gameplay to back it up..



 

jefforange89 on 21 October 2009

Well, if xbawkz leiv had bombed, you can bet your ass that IW.Net wouldn't exist in the first place.



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