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Forums - Sales Discussion - When will PS2 lose its momentum?!

Alacrist on 23 March 2007

I like StarcraftManiac's, thread about the DS so here's so I started a series, When do you think the PS2 will lose momentum? Please post only about the given system. Thank You



 

  

 

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TheSource on 23 March 2007

After God of War 2 hype...



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StarcraftManiac on 23 March 2007

Thanks for the honour Alacrist... Back on-topic: GoW II Will be the last time a PS2 game will be top of the charts for America. Later on the system will start to sell less and less units but it will still be remarkably good till end 07. Because of the HUGE userbase it will still be supported by major developers like Midway, EA, Ubisoft, Take2 and others... The sales will really slow down after that and only EA will bring FIFA to it in the end of 08... :P... Just like Fifa 04 on PS1. My guess is it will be in the state the NGC is now around Jan/March 08.



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HappySqurriel on 23 March 2007

StarcraftManiac said: Thanks for the honour Alacrist... Back on-topic: GoW II Will be the last time a PS2 game will be top of the charts for America. Later on the system will start to sell less and less units but it will still be remarkably good till end 07. Because of the HUGE userbase it will still be supported by major developers like Midway, EA, Ubisoft, Take2 and others... The sales will really slow down after that and only EA will bring FIFA to it in the end of 08... :P... Just like Fifa 04 on PS1. My guess is it will be in the state the NGC is now around Jan/March 08.
I think you're expecting it to die down way too early ... From now until the end of 2007 the PS2 will be in a price range which makes it very attractive and will have a game library which is unmatched; this will make it one of the most popular platforms for the entire year. In 2008 the PS2 will have a smaller library of new games being released, and will be facing strong pricing competition from the Wii, but will continue to sell reasonably well because people who are still interested in PS2 games will replace broken PS2 systems rather than buy an expensive PS3. After holiday 2008 the PS2 will probably be selling at current GBA sales and will be in its dying days ...



Darc Requiem on 23 March 2007

In Japan the PS2 has already lost its momentum. In the case of the US, I think the PS2 will lose its momentum this holiday season. The 360's price will drop causing the Wii to follow suit. So I'm guessing shoppers be able to choose between: Wii: $149 to $199 (Depending on the 360 price drop) 360: $199 to $249 (Core/20GB model) $299 to $349 (Premium/Elite/120 GB model) PS3: $399 or discontinued (20GB model) $499 (60GB Model) GC: $79 PS2: $129 A lot of this depends on MS and the Core model of the 360. If MS keeps the Core model and sells it for $199, the Wii will have drop to $149. If MS cans the Core model, which the should, BTW, I see them selling the 20GB as the new Core at the $249 price range with the 120GB priced $100 higher. Sony will have to give the PS3 some sort of price cut. I guess $100. With retailers not stocking the 20GB, Sony would be wise to can it and lower its manufacturing cost by manufacturing a single model. This is unless they can manage to sell it for $399 and get retailers to actually stock it.



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Christopher_G2 on 23 March 2007

I don't think it will slow down much this year. I think perhapse mid 2008 is when it will happen. There aren't many big title scheduled beyond God of War 2, but given the huge list of past games it will continue to hold on well. I think the 360 will pass it in monthly sales this holiday season, and the PS3 will do it sometime early next year. After that it will drop and by the end of 2008 it will clearly be a fourth place console. Though I expect Sony to keep producing them at least through 2009.



ssj12 on 23 March 2007

RolStoppable said: Darc Requiem said: In Japan the PS2 has already lost its momentum. In the case of the US, I think the PS2 will lose its momentum this holiday season. The 360's price will drop causing the Wii to follow suit. So I'm guessing shoppers be able to choose between: Wii: $149 to $199 (Depending on the 360 price drop) 360: $199 to $249 (Core/20GB model) $299 to $349 (Premium/Elite/120 GB model) PS3: $399 or discontinued (20GB model) $499 (60GB Model) GC: $79 PS2: $129 A lot of this depends on MS and the Core model of the 360. If MS keeps the Core model and sells it for $199, the Wii will have drop to $149. If MS cans the Core model, which the should, BTW, I see them selling the 20GB as the new Core at the $249 price range with the 120GB priced $100 higher. Sony will have to give the PS3 some sort of price cut. I guess $100. With retailers not stocking the 20GB, Sony would be wise to can it and lower its manufacturing cost by manufacturing a single model. This is unless they can manage to sell it for $399 and get retailers to actually stock it. I highly doubt that Nintendo would drop the price of the Wii in reaction to a 360 price drop. Nintendo doesn't need to. Wii offers so much more the 360 can't. If price would be the only matter, Sony would have dropped the PSP price a long time ago, but even Sony knows that a price drop would hurt their system more than it would help. The DS would still be able to outsell the PSP even with the DS at 149$ and the PSP at 129$. EDIT: The PS2 is losing its momentum in Japan, in USA it will lose it soon because Sony focuses on the PS3 and most publishers shift their major resources to the Wii. As big games stops to be made and released for PS2 the momentum will die. In Europe the momentum for the PS2 will last the longest due to the fact that the last big games of the PS2 are going to be released a few months after the US release (Final Fantasy 12, God of War 2).
FFXII and GoW2 was already released. Anyways I think Sony might decide to drop the price of the PS2 soon. If it drops in price more non-gamers will be most likely to buy it causing the sales to increase again. Im thinking the PS2's price drop will be no more the $10 though.



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Erik Aston on 23 March 2007

Sony only makes a very slim profit on PS2 hardware right now. Same with Nintendo on the Gamecube. So I see the price cuts coming slowly, and only being 10 and 20 bucks, until it gets to that 50 dollar price point maybe 3 years from now. Final shipments will comfortably top 130 million.



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Andrew on 23 March 2007

The PS2 is entering the 'throw away console' mode. It is getting so cheap that some people will buy it for one game. I highly doubt that Nintendo would drop the price of the Wii in reaction to a 360 price drop. Nintendo doesn't need to. Wii offers so much more the 360 can't. The wii doesn't add that much more then the 360 does, if they are around the same price I can guarantee that the xbox 360 will sell more then the wii, to a casual buyer it has a wider selection of games. (Even if all the developers go to the wii it will still take them around 2 years to get the games ready) The hardcore fans will want it, because of halo and the older generation will want it because of its compatibility with the computer. And since its games look alot better the wii, it will be choosen more then the wii. If anyone thinks this console war is over, they are in for a shock. Microsoft and Sony aren't going to sit back and watch Nintendo take the market.



Hus on 23 March 2007

after if hit 50$