I never cried or teared up on a video game but the scene was the closet I've ever got. I was so sad that I almost gave up on the game at the point without Agro.

@OT

I never played ICO (ICO HD collection c'mon Sony DO IT) but Shadow of The Colossus alone is better than anything Kojima ever did and I played MGS 1,2,3 and 4.

Easily Kojima. SotC is vasly over-rated. What we have there is a pretty stripped down game with very little variety which survives as a classic under the mantra "games are art" and "Atmosphere is greater than narrative." If that game wasn't supported by some of the best graphics and most original artstyle on the PS2...say it were on the DS, it would be a mediocre title and wouldn't be remembered by most people. The game is a paper champion. It has no real substance. It's not the type of game you want to play back through for the addictive gameplay.

Of course, it doesn't hurt the developers notability and the post launch hype of the game, that the developer stayed PS exclusive, and thus automatically has a huge horde of followers no matter how good or bad his work may actually be.

Kojima on the other hand, is an actual great developer who has been making not only good games, but even one revolutionary game(MGS). While he has slipped up in the past, and no he's not perfect, he is really really good, and he doesn't need to be seen in a mysterious "games are art" mystique to justify it.

I do give the artstyle dept for SotC props, though. Interesting stuff. Though, gameplay is where it counts, and making an obviously Zelda inspired knockoff without the dungeons, monsters, or story didn't quite enthrall me as I once thought it might, no matter how purty is turned out. Maybe I just don't understand atmosphere or implied themes in videogames. That said, it does pay homage to Zelda. I give it an 8/10.

This is hard, really hard....

I can't decide. However, I'm leaning towards Kojima. SotC, however, is on par with many games this generation despite being much older (Well, not that old, but its up there)

Kojima. Ueda gets a very honorable mention. In my books, they should both get my vote (If its possible)

you really giving me a hard time on this one......

Having not played Ico explains why you just referenced a different bridge scene than the one Khuutra was referring to.  :P

Ssshhhhhh.

lol, ok, that's it. We played different games. I don't even remember that part, lol?

Clearly.

So you haven't even played all of Ueda's games, yet you accuse those who prefer his work to Kojima's of favoring him simply for being PlayStation exclusive?

This is not the first time you've made baseless assumptions based on little knowledge of the subject at hand.  I seem to recall you berating Naughty Dog awhile back, claiming that they made Resistance.

I need to get my hands on Ico...