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Citan said:
coolbeans said:
Citan said:
coolbeans said:
Citan said:
Considering all the xbox give-aways after red ring of death failures, PS3 has allready beat btox.

You do realize this is a videogame SALES tracking website, right?  Think before you post

Nonono amigo. When a store sell one xbox and give away another it`s considered a sale. The failure one is trashed.

I know because I own a shop. You have to register the one given away.

 

You do realize the more major game retailers push harder for PS3 giveaways then 360, right (Wii the most of course)? Just pointing that out

???

To try to answer your argument? xbox have a enormous failure rate. We can agree on that? When one is red ringed the person goes back to the shop;

"Hey, this is broken."

"Here a new one for ye. Just let me register it."

"pling, pling"

Then it`s considered as another sale. The customer that were complaining have "bought" two btox.

Just keep that in mind when people are bragging about salesnumbers.

 

So here my question for ye: What do you mean by push harder for PS3 giveaways?

I`m not talking about a quiz where you can win a console.

 

 

According to the people who replied here, this is nonsense. Store replacements do not count as sales.



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ironman said:
Fufinu said:
ironman said:
stewroids said:
hsrob said:

Even if we were to accep last week's numbers as representative of a new baseline, with the PS3 selling ~60 000 more units per week than the Xbox 360, it's going to take nearly two and a half years for the PS3 to catch the 360.

And we have to assume that in that time Microsoft is going to sit there twiddling it's thumbs, idly watching it's market share disappear.

nojustno

I hate it when people bring up that statistic...the PS3 would take 2.5 years to catch up if and only if there weren't a thing called holidays! When you take that into account, plus the boosts that software gives, that 2.5 years can be reduced by a lot!

Or expanded a lot, you fail to remeber the 360's lineup. A laugh at people who think the market is going to stay the way it is. the people who can't fathom the thought that MS IS going to be pushing new hardware that has been hyped more than anything else the "other" two have shown. Also, that MS IS going to have some pretty sweet games coming their way. But whatever, do you like your crow BBq'd or fried?

Don't forget the coming PS3 line-up - GT5, GoW3, FF13 (Japan), MAG, Heavy Rain, Ratchet and Clank can compete with anything. People who claim that the 360 has a better line-up seem to be living in 2007 IMHO.

People mentioning price-cut as a solution fail to see that the PS3 can also make cuts in return. Blu-ray is also building steam and in most video rental stores in my area they are eating up space from DVDs. This will only increase in the next 3 years. MS will not stop and stare but nor will Sony.

I'm not discounting the PS3s linup, it just doesn't seem to be as good or extensive as the 360 lineup.

Anyway, Blueray is a non-issue here because it is part of a dying breed of media, and is also NOT a big system seller anymore, especially with the advent of cheap Bluray players and good DVD upconverters (who wants to pay hundreds to upgrade their DVD collection to bluray when they can get almost the same quality and keep their DVDs?).

Now, Sony already did their little pricecut jamboree, do you honestly think they can, or will do another one soon?

I don't see the wand being a system saver either, nobody was really excited about it because to the average consumer, it looks like the wiimote combined with the eyetoy. Natal was something completely new, something nobody (in the console side) has done yet, so there was a great buzz around it. While it won't be a huge system mover, it certainly will do more for the 360 than the wand will do for the PS3.

Live in your glory moments, for they shall soon pass.

You say that the format is dying (blu-ray) but then go on to say that the players are becoming cheaper. Sounds pretty contradictory to me? Blu-ray was a deciding factor when it came to my buying-decision.

Price cut jamboree? MS also did one, but the result was not the same. Can THEY afford another one? Keep in mind that they are trailing in console sales for the last two months.

Wand you're right but Natal will be the same unless there is software to support it (and not on an eyepet level).

The glory moments should have passed on the second week after the price cut! Sales for the PS3 are still over 200k WW!



Fufinu said:
ironman said:
Fufinu said:
ironman said:
stewroids said:
hsrob said:

Even if we were to accep last week's numbers as representative of a new baseline, with the PS3 selling ~60 000 more units per week than the Xbox 360, it's going to take nearly two and a half years for the PS3 to catch the 360.

And we have to assume that in that time Microsoft is going to sit there twiddling it's thumbs, idly watching it's market share disappear.

nojustno

I hate it when people bring up that statistic...the PS3 would take 2.5 years to catch up if and only if there weren't a thing called holidays! When you take that into account, plus the boosts that software gives, that 2.5 years can be reduced by a lot!

Or expanded a lot, you fail to remeber the 360's lineup. A laugh at people who think the market is going to stay the way it is. the people who can't fathom the thought that MS IS going to be pushing new hardware that has been hyped more than anything else the "other" two have shown. Also, that MS IS going to have some pretty sweet games coming their way. But whatever, do you like your crow BBq'd or fried?

Don't forget the coming PS3 line-up - GT5, GoW3, FF13 (Japan), MAG, Heavy Rain, Ratchet and Clank can compete with anything. People who claim that the 360 has a better line-up seem to be living in 2007 IMHO.

People mentioning price-cut as a solution fail to see that the PS3 can also make cuts in return. Blu-ray is also building steam and in most video rental stores in my area they are eating up space from DVDs. This will only increase in the next 3 years. MS will not stop and stare but nor will Sony.

I'm not discounting the PS3s linup, it just doesn't seem to be as good or extensive as the 360 lineup.

Anyway, Blueray is a non-issue here because it is part of a dying breed of media, and is also NOT a big system seller anymore, especially with the advent of cheap Bluray players and good DVD upconverters (who wants to pay hundreds to upgrade their DVD collection to bluray when they can get almost the same quality and keep their DVDs?).

Now, Sony already did their little pricecut jamboree, do you honestly think they can, or will do another one soon?

I don't see the wand being a system saver either, nobody was really excited about it because to the average consumer, it looks like the wiimote combined with the eyetoy. Natal was something completely new, something nobody (in the console side) has done yet, so there was a great buzz around it. While it won't be a huge system mover, it certainly will do more for the 360 than the wand will do for the PS3.

Live in your glory moments, for they shall soon pass.

You say that the format is dying (blu-ray) but then go on to say that the players are becoming cheaper. Sounds pretty contradictory to me? Blu-ray was a deciding factor when it came to my buying-decision.

Price cut jamboree? MS also did one, but the result was not the same. Can THEY afford another one? Keep in mind that they are trailing in console sales for the last two months.

Wand you're right but Natal will be the same unless there is software to support it (and not on an eyepet level).

The glory moments should have passed on the second week after the price cut! Sales for the PS3 are still over 200k WW!

Ooo, getting defensive are we? Look, you obviously misread the way I presented the bluray argument. I was meaning that Bluray is part of a dying media format meaning it is caving way to digital distribution. BUT for those still buying bluray players, they can buy a cheap one and not have to get a gaming system that costs twice as much and will mainly be used as a bluray player. You seem rather concieted in the fact that you assume just because you and a minority of people bought the PS3 because of the bluray player, the mojority of consumers are following suit, this is simply not the case.

MS pricecut was not paired with a console redesign and obviously was not going to be affective. but you act as though MS doesn't have any tricks up their sleeve. I suspect we will see another pricecut when Natal comes out, what will Sony do at that time? I highly doubt they can or will do another pricecut.

Natal has the Devs excited, dev packages went out at E3, and rumers of major games utilizing Natal are floating around, does the wand have that? I think not. Natal has something the wand and the wiimote+ do not, momentum.

The glory moments may last a few months, but they will end, I promise you that.



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Don't forget your helmet there, Master Chief!

THE 360 WILL NEVER OUTSELL THE PS3 AGAIN WORLDWIDE!

TRIPLE QUOTE ME ON THAT!



SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
THE 360 WILL NEVER OUTSELL THE PS3 AGAIN WORLDWIDE!

TRIPLE QUOTE ME ON THAT!

I loled, you are funny.



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ironman said:
SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
THE 360 WILL NEVER OUTSELL THE PS3 AGAIN WORLDWIDE!

TRIPLE QUOTE ME ON THAT!

I loled, you are funny.


just remember my prediction! they shoud give my prediction its own sticky thread!



ironman said:

I'm not discounting the PS3s linup, it just doesn't seem to be as good or extensive as the 360 lineup.

Can you tell me what this extensive 360 lineup is for the next few quarters?

I can only think of a handful of games.

Cheers in advance



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)

libellule said:
there is a difference between "catching up" and "beat" ...

I don't think the OP even realizes this.



Love the product, not the company. They love your money, not you.

-TheRealMafoo

it is a true testimony to the power of invincible ignorance when after 4 years of this gen the 360 can be getting trounced in weekly sales, yet its fans are still talking about how it will turn it around and claim 2nd.

it's like half of the m$ fans want to hurry up and start the next gen to get another early lead that won't last, and the other half are frantically rubbing trolls' bellies hoping natal descends from heaven and saves them from their gaming sins.



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The PS3 is not only a Bluray Player its a really good one I read a Test recently where they said that the PS3 can compare to much much expensier Bluray Players its a respectable Source. And thats not all. The PS3 Upconverts DVD very very good thats not Standard. And guess what it has a Harddrive in it thats definetly a plus for a Blurayplayer. And thats not all the best thing is this Bluray Player can be upgraded via Firmware Update they gave a lot of Functionality to this Bluray Player afterwards like Upscaling etc. It has HDMI 1.3 ( Xbox 360 just 1.2 and a lot of cheap Bluray Players too).

The PS3 is able to put twice as much Data through HDMI 1.3 then through HDMI 1.2 and thats neccessary for 3D Movies because it needs 120 Frames per sec. to make this special effekt possible ( can be used in Games with cheap glasses+TV and as I understood it without glasses if you have a Bravia TV)


And thats not all even people which buy a Bluray Player would Pay the 100 extra bucks for this functionality plus you can still use it as a Gaming Console thats a Plus even if you dont intend to use this Functionality its good if you have it for free.

The PS3 is a great deal more then just great. Even if you used it just for Blurays. And if you use it as gaming Console its even better. If someone is interested which Abilitys the PS3 as a Bluray Player have compared to even more expensive ones can google it you will find plenty of tests. Sony continously made the Bluray Functionality better via FW Updates and they can still put in new Features ( Not all Bluray Players have Internet Access or Wifi so they cant use the Interactive Content which is on some of the Blurays)