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atma998 on 09 October 2009
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Avarice28 said:
atma998 said:
Oh come on don't use the ''pirated system'' excuse again. The DS is much easier to pirate and is the #1 SW seller.

GT PSP won't reach any GTA PSP type of numbers and people still think it will sell 10 million on PS3, what a joke.

GTprologue sold 4 million plus on ps3, so that pretty much says that when GT5 gets here (billion dollar IP) it is going to sell gangbusters (10 million is no problem).  I notice you are very negative towards anything sony related, why oh why do you post if this is all you can contribute to conversations?  Why don't you wait tell there is something you would like to talk about positively, then most people would actually start to 'respect' you again.  This site does not track downloads, how do you know it did not do 750,000 first week including downloads? 


lol like if I care about the ''respect'' of some unknown internet user like yourself. GTAIV PS3 is very far away of the 10 million mark so what make you think GT5 will do better?

Oh but maybe you want me to repeat for the hundredth time how good GT:PSP did like a blinded PS3 fan? (when we all know this is no good numbers at all) If not, then you have to accept my point of view on that matter, even if it doesnt fit with yours.

You do realise that GTA4 is multiplat?

yes, and...?

So there is an extra insentive to buy it on the much cheaper 360... Which also has extra content and a massive lead in GTA main territory, NA.

If the game was timed exclusive/exclusive it would be at ~8 Million/10 Million by now.

Where did you find those numbers? If you want to back up your agument please use real numbers and/or past trends rather than throwing numbers from your imagination.



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Carl on 09 October 2009
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Oh come on don't use the ''pirated system'' excuse again. The DS is much easier to pirate and is the #1 SW seller.

GT PSP won't reach any GTA PSP type of numbers and people still think it will sell 10 million on PS3, what a joke.

It's not an excuse, it is logic.

Plus piracy isn't the only factor to take into consideration. DD sales also. When PD release figures themselves, THEN we will know the real opening week.

Red- GT games have legs, really good legs. Include the DD sales and it could surpass VC Stories and come close to LC Stories.

As for GT5, as i mentioned before...  PSP games don't sell like console games.  That is why GTA on PSP only sold 3.5/5.6 Million, compared to on PS2 where the games sold 10M +

Ok, but why using this excuse with the PSP but not with the DS???

And the matter is that GTA is > than GT as a franchise. So don't expect GT5 to do 1.5-2 times the sales of GTAIV PS3.

This is logic.

Like i said, it's not an excuse... It's logic.

And how many times do we need to get it into your biased skull... GTA4 = Multiplat. If it was exclusive it would be sat at around 10 Million by now.

Carl, you didnt explain me why people doesnt use the piracy to explain DS numbers while some people like you use this ''logic'' for the PSP.

And why would it suddenly sell crazy numbers if the game is exclusive?

You can call me biased like you want, I don't feel more biased than you.

Because DS games generally tend to sell more than PSP games?

Add the games sales on PS3 and 360 together. Then use basic logic, if you have the ability to do so.



                            

Carl on 09 October 2009
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Avarice28 said:
atma998 said:
Oh come on don't use the ''pirated system'' excuse again. The DS is much easier to pirate and is the #1 SW seller.

GT PSP won't reach any GTA PSP type of numbers and people still think it will sell 10 million on PS3, what a joke.

GTprologue sold 4 million plus on ps3, so that pretty much says that when GT5 gets here (billion dollar IP) it is going to sell gangbusters (10 million is no problem).  I notice you are very negative towards anything sony related, why oh why do you post if this is all you can contribute to conversations?  Why don't you wait tell there is something you would like to talk about positively, then most people would actually start to 'respect' you again.  This site does not track downloads, how do you know it did not do 750,000 first week including downloads? 


lol like if I care about the ''respect'' of some unknown internet user like yourself. GTAIV PS3 is very far away of the 10 million mark so what make you think GT5 will do better?

Oh but maybe you want me to repeat for the hundredth time how good GT:PSP did like a blinded PS3 fan? (when we all know this is no good numbers at all) If not, then you have to accept my point of view on that matter, even if it doesnt fit with yours.

You do realise that GTA4 is multiplat?

yes, and...?

So there is an extra insentive to buy it on the much cheaper 360... Which also has extra content and a massive lead in GTA main territory, NA.

If the game was timed exclusive/exclusive it would be at ~8 Million/10 Million by now.

Where did you find those numbers? If you want to back up your agument please use real numbers and/or past trends rather than throwing numbers from your imagination.

It's called common sense, you should try it sometime.

Where else would the 7.2 Million 360 sales end up? The Wii version?



                            

atma998 on 09 October 2009
Avarice28 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Oh come on don't use the ''pirated system'' excuse again. The DS is much easier to pirate and is the #1 SW seller.

GT PSP won't reach any GTA PSP type of numbers and people still think it will sell 10 million on PS3, what a joke.

It's not an excuse, it is logic.

Plus piracy isn't the only factor to take into consideration. DD sales also. When PD release figures themselves, THEN we will know the real opening week.

Red- GT games have legs, really good legs. Include the DD sales and it could surpass VC Stories and come close to LC Stories.

As for GT5, as i mentioned before...  PSP games don't sell like console games.  That is why GTA on PSP only sold 3.5/5.6 Million, compared to on PS2 where the games sold 10M +

Ok, but why using this excuse with the PSP but not with the DS???

And the matter is that GTA is > than GT as a franchise. So don't expect GT5 to do 1.5-2 times the sales of GTAIV PS3.

This is logic.

In your opinion, which judging by your many, many  'weak' arguments is just more frivolous conjecture.

According to the chartz not one game for GT has sold less than 10 million units with the exception being the prologues (ps2 and ps3), but ofcourse they are not full games.  So the highlighted arguement has pretty much been disproven.

 


No it's not an opinion, it's a fact. Just look at the previous GTA numbers to realise that I was right in calling GTA > GT. Please try to be more informed next time you post.



Avarice28 on 09 October 2009
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Avarice28 said:
atma998 said:
Oh come on don't use the ''pirated system'' excuse again. The DS is much easier to pirate and is the #1 SW seller.

GT PSP won't reach any GTA PSP type of numbers and people still think it will sell 10 million on PS3, what a joke.

GTprologue sold 4 million plus on ps3, so that pretty much says that when GT5 gets here (billion dollar IP) it is going to sell gangbusters (10 million is no problem).  I notice you are very negative towards anything sony related, why oh why do you post if this is all you can contribute to conversations?  Why don't you wait tell there is something you would like to talk about positively, then most people would actually start to 'respect' you again.  This site does not track downloads, how do you know it did not do 750,000 first week including downloads? 


lol like if I care about the ''respect'' of some unknown internet user like yourself. GTAIV PS3 is very far away of the 10 million mark so what make you think GT5 will do better?

Oh but maybe you want me to repeat for the hundredth time how good GT:PSP did like a blinded PS3 fan? (when we all know this is no good numbers at all) If not, then you have to accept my point of view on that matter, even if it doesnt fit with yours.

You do realise that GTA4 is multiplat?

yes, and...?

So there is an extra insentive to buy it on the much cheaper 360... Which also has extra content and a massive lead in GTA main territory, NA.

If the game was timed exclusive/exclusive it would be at ~8 Million/10 Million by now.

Where did you find those numbers? If you want to back up your agument please use real numbers and/or past trends rather than throwing numbers from your imagination.

It's called common sense, you should try it sometime.

Where else would the 7.2 Million 360 sales end up? The Wii version?

Good point, I do not see where this guy gets his data from.......oh yeah from his AZZ probably.  Hell I would go one more further, I did not buy GTA 4 this gen because of the multi-platform status(too many compromises and not enough next gen features)-I wonder how many other people who were like me and opted to buy other exclusive games instead of GTA4?



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atma998 on 09 October 2009
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Avarice28 said:
atma998 said:
Oh come on don't use the ''pirated system'' excuse again. The DS is much easier to pirate and is the #1 SW seller.

GT PSP won't reach any GTA PSP type of numbers and people still think it will sell 10 million on PS3, what a joke.

GTprologue sold 4 million plus on ps3, so that pretty much says that when GT5 gets here (billion dollar IP) it is going to sell gangbusters (10 million is no problem).  I notice you are very negative towards anything sony related, why oh why do you post if this is all you can contribute to conversations?  Why don't you wait tell there is something you would like to talk about positively, then most people would actually start to 'respect' you again.  This site does not track downloads, how do you know it did not do 750,000 first week including downloads? 


lol like if I care about the ''respect'' of some unknown internet user like yourself. GTAIV PS3 is very far away of the 10 million mark so what make you think GT5 will do better?

Oh but maybe you want me to repeat for the hundredth time how good GT:PSP did like a blinded PS3 fan? (when we all know this is no good numbers at all) If not, then you have to accept my point of view on that matter, even if it doesnt fit with yours.

You do realise that GTA4 is multiplat?

yes, and...?

So there is an extra insentive to buy it on the much cheaper 360... Which also has extra content and a massive lead in GTA main territory, NA.

If the game was timed exclusive/exclusive it would be at ~8 Million/10 Million by now.

Where did you find those numbers? If you want to back up your agument please use real numbers and/or past trends rather than throwing numbers from your imagination.

It's called common sense, you should try it sometime.

Where else would the 7.2 Million 360 sales end up? The Wii version?

Ok so you're saying that 7.2 million of people would have bought a PS3 just to play GTAIV? Please... don't talk about common sense anymore.

And the fact that DS softwares sell great isnt an explanation of why people doesnt talk about piracy to justify its sales. Following your logic we could affirm that NSMB didnt reach 30 million yet because of piracy.



Avarice28 on 09 October 2009

I actually bought both GTa's on the psp and skipped GTA 4, I would have probably bought it had it remained exclusive so that alone would have allowed GTA 4 to probably sell a lot closer to what san andreas sold on the ps2.



Carl on 09 October 2009
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Avarice28 said:
atma998 said:
Oh come on don't use the ''pirated system'' excuse again. The DS is much easier to pirate and is the #1 SW seller.

GT PSP won't reach any GTA PSP type of numbers and people still think it will sell 10 million on PS3, what a joke.

GTprologue sold 4 million plus on ps3, so that pretty much says that when GT5 gets here (billion dollar IP) it is going to sell gangbusters (10 million is no problem).  I notice you are very negative towards anything sony related, why oh why do you post if this is all you can contribute to conversations?  Why don't you wait tell there is something you would like to talk about positively, then most people would actually start to 'respect' you again.  This site does not track downloads, how do you know it did not do 750,000 first week including downloads? 


lol like if I care about the ''respect'' of some unknown internet user like yourself. GTAIV PS3 is very far away of the 10 million mark so what make you think GT5 will do better?

Oh but maybe you want me to repeat for the hundredth time how good GT:PSP did like a blinded PS3 fan? (when we all know this is no good numbers at all) If not, then you have to accept my point of view on that matter, even if it doesnt fit with yours.

You do realise that GTA4 is multiplat?

yes, and...?

So there is an extra insentive to buy it on the much cheaper 360... Which also has extra content and a massive lead in GTA main territory, NA.

If the game was timed exclusive/exclusive it would be at ~8 Million/10 Million by now.

Where did you find those numbers? If you want to back up your agument please use real numbers and/or past trends rather than throwing numbers from your imagination.

It's called common sense, you should try it sometime.

Where else would the 7.2 Million 360 sales end up? The Wii version?

Ok so you're saying that 7.2 million of people would have bought a PS3 just to play GTAIV? Please... don't talk about common sense anymore.

And the fact that DS softwares sell great isnt an explanation of why people doesnt talk about piracy to justify its sales. Following your logic we could affirm that NSMB didnt reach 30 million yet because of piracy.

I never said all 7.2 Million would. I said 3-4 Million people would have instead got the PS3 version.

Sure, if it makes you smile... Why not.



                            

atma998 on 09 October 2009
Avarice28 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Avarice28 said:
atma998 said:
Oh come on don't use the ''pirated system'' excuse again. The DS is much easier to pirate and is the #1 SW seller.

GT PSP won't reach any GTA PSP type of numbers and people still think it will sell 10 million on PS3, what a joke.

GTprologue sold 4 million plus on ps3, so that pretty much says that when GT5 gets here (billion dollar IP) it is going to sell gangbusters (10 million is no problem).  I notice you are very negative towards anything sony related, why oh why do you post if this is all you can contribute to conversations?  Why don't you wait tell there is something you would like to talk about positively, then most people would actually start to 'respect' you again.  This site does not track downloads, how do you know it did not do 750,000 first week including downloads? 


lol like if I care about the ''respect'' of some unknown internet user like yourself. GTAIV PS3 is very far away of the 10 million mark so what make you think GT5 will do better?

Oh but maybe you want me to repeat for the hundredth time how good GT:PSP did like a blinded PS3 fan? (when we all know this is no good numbers at all) If not, then you have to accept my point of view on that matter, even if it doesnt fit with yours.

You do realise that GTA4 is multiplat?

yes, and...?

So there is an extra insentive to buy it on the much cheaper 360... Which also has extra content and a massive lead in GTA main territory, NA.

If the game was timed exclusive/exclusive it would be at ~8 Million/10 Million by now.

Where did you find those numbers? If you want to back up your agument please use real numbers and/or past trends rather than throwing numbers from your imagination.

It's called common sense, you should try it sometime.

Where else would the 7.2 Million 360 sales end up? The Wii version?

Good point, I do not see where this guy gets his data from.......oh yeah from his AZZ probably.  Hell I would go one more further, I did not buy GTA 4 this gen because of the multi-platform status(too many compromises and not enough next gen features)-I wonder how many other people who were like me and opted to buy other exclusive games instead of GTA4?

Just go take a look at the Worldwide Total Sales chart... you will suddenly understand a lot of things.



atma998 on 09 October 2009
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:
Avarice28 said:
atma998 said:
Oh come on don't use the ''pirated system'' excuse again. The DS is much easier to pirate and is the #1 SW seller.

GT PSP won't reach any GTA PSP type of numbers and people still think it will sell 10 million on PS3, what a joke.

GTprologue sold 4 million plus on ps3, so that pretty much says that when GT5 gets here (billion dollar IP) it is going to sell gangbusters (10 million is no problem).  I notice you are very negative towards anything sony related, why oh why do you post if this is all you can contribute to conversations?  Why don't you wait tell there is something you would like to talk about positively, then most people would actually start to 'respect' you again.  This site does not track downloads, how do you know it did not do 750,000 first week including downloads? 


lol like if I care about the ''respect'' of some unknown internet user like yourself. GTAIV PS3 is very far away of the 10 million mark so what make you think GT5 will do better?

Oh but maybe you want me to repeat for the hundredth time how good GT:PSP did like a blinded PS3 fan? (when we all know this is no good numbers at all) If not, then you have to accept my point of view on that matter, even if it doesnt fit with yours.

You do realise that GTA4 is multiplat?

yes, and...?

So there is an extra insentive to buy it on the much cheaper 360... Which also has extra content and a massive lead in GTA main territory, NA.

If the game was timed exclusive/exclusive it would be at ~8 Million/10 Million by now.

Where did you find those numbers? If you want to back up your agument please use real numbers and/or past trends rather than throwing numbers from your imagination.

It's called common sense, you should try it sometime.

Where else would the 7.2 Million 360 sales end up? The Wii version?

Ok so you're saying that 7.2 million of people would have bought a PS3 just to play GTAIV? Please... don't talk about common sense anymore.

And the fact that DS softwares sell great isnt an explanation of why people doesnt talk about piracy to justify its sales. Following your logic we could affirm that NSMB didnt reach 30 million yet because of piracy.

I never said all 7.2 Million would. I said 3-4 Million people would have instead got the PS3 version.

Sure, if it makes you smile... Why not.

Again you totally evade the piracy excuse and threw some other numbers from your imagination. I don't think I will keep this avatar much further.