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CGI-Quality said:

BUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's inaccurate....

No, that's very accurate. And even if it was it's still sad that those 2 sentences would turn this into another console war thread.



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this is just another one of those dumb threads that are basically sayin " Nintendo does everything and nobody else has done anything"



@CGIquality I mentioned Littlebigplanet as the ONLY game giving the PS3 a mainstream identity.

Bungie does not belong to microsoft anymore, so obviously they don't care abouy Halo being first party. But ok, 1 for MS, 4 games for Sony including the game the ICO is currently working on, 5 if heavy rain turns out to be shenmue-ish.

It's still nothing compared to the integrated game companies, and companies like Capcom or Blizzard. LittleBigPlanet sold well, but wasn't a mega-hit. None of those games will ever become as big franchises as say, warcraft or Zelda.



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Xxain said:


but wat does that matter?..there is a large portion of the company dedicated to gaming..wether its in internal or exteral( ur PS corp example) it doessnt matter

It matters because they don't have as much of an incentive to put make games products that people will want.



KungKras said:

The reason as to why people think that MS and SONY doesn't have any first party is because their games really just look like ANY OTHER 3RD PARTY GAME. They have nothing that give them an identity like Sega or Capcom or Nintendo.

Trust me, if MS or SONY could make a kart racer or some other game starring recogniced characters, they WOULD DO IT. Sony and MS are not above milking franchises, or making all stars games, they just CAN'T because their games have not been mega hits that will always be remembered such as Super Mario Brothers or Sonic.

Every game that is put out by Sonys and MSs studios just follow the latest trends, they are our time's equivalent of the Sonic clones of the 90's. They will be remembered just the same way all the mascot platformers were (excluding Sonic). Sony though, has made one exception, LittleBigPlanet might be remembered as a game that gave the PS3 an Identity, maybe the ICO games too, but that is like 2-5 against all of the games in the classic franchises  that Sega or Capcom has.

Games with generic themes can become legends too because of quality, just look at Blizzard's games, but MS and Sony doesn't have any games of Blizzard caliber either.

That's why the PS1 and 2, and the Xboxes never really interrested me, it felt like they had no identity the way Nintendo or Sega or Blizzard or Capcom has.

I agree with much in the OP. The structure that Sony and Microsoft has isn't really suited for gaming either. Both Nintendo and Sega desinged their hardware from the software they want to make. Nintnedo and Sega are very integrated companies. Microsoft and Sony doesn't have that integration between software makers and hardware makers. When they got into the industry, they made the hardware first, moneyhatted third parties, and bought some studios later. Sony and MS should really start uniting their console divisions with their game divisions, for the good of gaming.

This post is made of so much fail



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liquidninja said:
Xxain said:


but wat does that matter?..there is a large portion of the company dedicated to gaming..wether its in internal or exteral( ur PS corp example) it doessnt matter

It matters because they don't have as much of an incentive to put make games products that people will want.

But they do put out products that people want, and you keep denying that this is related to the OP, when in fact it's the central idea of the OP!



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liquidninja said:
Xxain said:


but wat does that matter?..there is a large portion of the company dedicated to gaming..wether its in internal or exteral( ur PS corp example) it doessnt matter

It matters because they don't have as much of an incentive to put make games products that people will want.


:O i cant even believe the nonsense out of this thread...your literally just spitting on all the hard work these developers do



Kantor said:

Your entire OP is based on the premise that Microsoft and Sony are messing up the industry.

Even what you call Nintendo's laziness is brought on by Sony and Microsoft.

You compare the gaming industry to the music industry, while saying gaming is no good in its current form, so either:

a) Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo need to step up the first party development, or

b) There are many different brands of console, all of which can play every game, giving us a situation like the MP3 player.

To be honest, I think the industry is fine as it is. Within the next couple of quarters, all three companies will be profiting, sales for all consoles are strong, and there is a diverse and quality range of games on every platform. The last thing we need is a company like Apple having complete domination over the industry.

I don't know who's messing up the industry. I just know it's messed up. I think the fact that there is only one video game company making consoles now is a big reason it sucks now. Needless to say I'm not happy with the way things are.



"They've gone after 3rd parties for the most part and occasionally will put out a game of their own."


isnt SONY in the lead for most 1st party games this GEN??????