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Forums - Sales - PS3>Wii In Japan this Week, DESPITE Wii Price Cut - thoughts!!??

Oh God again with the no pricecut statements! Even if Wii didnt outsell PS3 this week, it trippled its sales, i'm not sayin those are incredible numbers, but the company in the end probably doesnt care abt beating the PS3 as much as its concerned about profits. When your sales are falling its affecting the future, so if nintendo didnt drop, they could be risking completely losing out in 2010.

And Montana very well said, so true, i'll be happy if both consoles sell well(whoch i truely believe will happen in Japan), and not one over the other, its sad to see some people really showin too much hate



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Avinash_Tyagi said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
MontanaHatchet said:
I find it funny that some Nintendo fans are bragging about competing with the PS3, or hoping that the PS3 has lower numbers so that maybe the Wii tied the PS3 after a pricecut even though the PS3 had its own weeks ago and the Wii just had its.

How the mighty have fallen.

Its like I said before, software sells consoles, not price and price cuts (In fact in Japan, new colors and hardware revisions might even be more effective than price cuts).  Price cuts only serve to make your money go further when buying a console you're already interested in, what Wii needs in Japan is the release of its winter lineup to get people interested, of course, since October and part of November is historically a slow month for Japan, Nintendo appears to be holding off until late November, December to release its big titles

Wrong.

When you get within a certain price range ($200-300 or less), price doesn't make as much of a difference. However, a price cut can definitely help spur sales. Saying that software sells consoles and not the price is a blatant lie. It's a combination of the two, and it's a matter of finding the sweet spot. That is, a company must decide which combination of factors provides the best value. If you really think that all the Wii needs is some software to boost it up, you must have missed Wii Sports Resort and Monster Hunter 3 (two games that were supposed to really boost Wii sales). What's Wii Fit Plus (or some other title) going to do to really boost up Wii sales?

I'm not saying you're totally wrong, but when you're actually making definitive statements like price cuts not selling consoles, you know you're become delusional.

When real life says something different than your beliefs, then your beliefs are wrong Montana

We already saw Price cuts aren't the answer.

 One, MH3 is a front loaded game, just like FF13 it won't keep sustaining sales, Wii did have a big boost from the game, but it was a one week thing, so yeah it won't do it.

Two, WSR and WF+, are sequels to very popular games, so you're going to see mostly repeat buyers not many new buyers, before the release of WF+ and WSR, Wii Fit and Wii sports both fell below 10K in Japan, basically they were at the tail end of their legs.

NSMB on the other hand is a totally different game than is available on the Wii at the moment, not including VC, and its the latest iteration of a 2D mario platformer, a very popular genre, look at NSMB DS, still selling even after all these years.

So wait, when price cuts help to spur sales, and result in things like the PS3 being above the Wii for weeks straight (despite not having a big variety of heavy hitters released), I'm the one who is wrong?

Price cuts aren't THE answer, but they're a great way to help spur sales. Just look at how many PS2s were sold when it was at a sub $200 price point, or how much lower prices have done for a variety of other systems. It doesn't really make a big difference if Monster Hunter 3 is a big game, because it didn't create big Wii hardware sales when it launched, and it hasn't helped to create them now. Ditto for Wii Sports Resort. While NSMB Wii could definitely help Wii sales in Japan, it's likely not going to do nearly as well as you think it will do (or wish it will do). It's just one game, and while 2D style games are practically at home on handhelds, they're not as big on consoles. And that still doesn't change the fact that you're making idiotic definitive statements out of a strange desire to be stubborn. Software definitely helps, but so do price cuts.



 

 

PS3 had a hardware revision and new software that came out in Japan Montana

Actually PS2 sold very poorly in october in Japan, in the 20K-30K's

So yeah, your Price cut claims don't hold any water.

I've already pointed out why MH3, WSR and WF+ didn't boost sales

And as I've pointed out, you say that 2D platfomers don't have a home on consoles, but where's your proof, when was a 2D mario released recently on a console, been a while hasn't it.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

The price drop for the Wii was only in effect for 4 days, not the entire week so I am not really that surprised. I think they will both reach the same level next week. This is going to be an interesting winter.



WOW, I thought the Wii would beat the crap out of PS3 with the price cut. Guess the games just aren't there to boost sells enough.

We'll see if PS3 can do this two weeks in a row...

I don't think it will though.



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Avinash_Tyagi said:
PS3 had a hardware revision and new software that came out in Japan Montana

Actually PS2 sold very poorly in october in Japan, in the 20K-30K's

So yeah, your Price cut claims don't hold any water.

I've already pointed out why MH3, WSR and WF+ didn't boost sales

And as I've pointed out, you say that 2D platfomers don't have a home on consoles, but where's your proof, when was a 2D mario released recently on a console, been a while hasn't it.

Exactly, the PS3 combined software and a price cut to spur sales. However, it didn't even have any big software come out recently, so it went almost solely off of the effect of its price cut. The PS2 often didn't sell that amazingly in the months leading up to the holiday season, but it also sold more steadily throughout the year (sales in October were similar to sales in the rest of the year excluding December). The fact that you have to resort to saying my claims don't hold my water just shows how desperate your arguments are. The games I listed didn't even have to boost sales by a huge amount, but they should have at least provided boosts that lasted more than a couple of weeks. Pretty pathetic really. If a 2D Mario hasn't been released on a home console for a long time, that's exactly why it doesn't have a home there. 2D Mario games were released consistently on the Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, and DS. It sold millions regardless of console, and the success of the DS led the series to even greater heights on handhelds. However, it's been forever since there's been a 2D Mario on a home console. The market just isn't there as much, and even if it starts, it won't be anywhere near as big. NSMB Wii could definitely sell some consoles, but your stubbornness has led to you seriously overestimating the impact of software (and the game specifically), and severely underestimating the importantance of price.



 

 

Darth hypes his threads beyond all hell lol.

 

But i think the Wii's sales ill increase.



NYANKS said:
darthdevidem01 said:
superchunk said:
Nice. I'd say Wii's sales are going to remain 30-40k until NSMBWii launches. Then bye-bye everyone else.

& HELLO

Gotta love a good old fashioned pwnage. lmao nice one Darth.


Nintendo could do the exact same with NSMB Wii, but we know they won't. It would of been interesting to see how that battle went if they did.

 

I may hold out on a ps3 slim to see if Aus gets one of these models haha.



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
PS3 had a hardware revision and new software that came out in Japan Montana

Actually PS2 sold very poorly in october in Japan, in the 20K-30K's

So yeah, your Price cut claims don't hold any water.

I've already pointed out why MH3, WSR and WF+ didn't boost sales

And as I've pointed out, you say that 2D platfomers don't have a home on consoles, but where's your proof, when was a 2D mario released recently on a console, been a while hasn't it.

Exactly, the PS3 combined software and a price cut to spur sales. However, it didn't even have any big software come out recently, so it went almost solely off of the effect of its price cut. The PS2 often didn't sell that amazingly in the months leading up to the holiday season, but it also sold more steadily throughout the year (sales in October were similar to sales in the rest of the year excluding December). The fact that you have to resort to saying my claims don't hold my water just shows how desperate your arguments are. The games I listed didn't even have to boost sales by a huge amount, but they should have at least provided boosts that lasted more than a couple of weeks. Pretty pathetic really. If a 2D Mario hasn't been released on a home console for a long time, that's exactly why it doesn't have a home there. 2D Mario games were released consistently on the Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, and DS. It sold millions regardless of console, and the success of the DS led the series to even greater heights on handhelds. However, it's been forever since there's been a 2D Mario on a home console. The market just isn't there as much, and even if it starts, it won't be anywhere near as big. NSMB Wii could definitely sell some consoles, but your stubbornness has led to you seriously overestimating the impact of software (and the game specifically), and severely underestimating the importantance of price.


  No they had a hardware revision and software, that was far more important than the price cut, actually it did have Gundam and Vesperia, which are pretty popular in japan, probably not enough to sustain, but it was enough to give it a good boost for a month or so. No, I only say your claims don't hold water, because they aren't gelling with the facts on the ground, you keep saying price cut, while ignoring the new hardware revision and software. Sure PS2 was more steady, because they had a more steady stream of software, as they had more third party support, again software, not price No, its more because Nintendo was deluded into thinking that 3D>2D, like most of the gaming companies, but have you noticed how Mario 3D titles have never sold as much as the 2D, not even close in most cases, its because the marker that 2D mario appeals to, doesn't necessarily transfer over to 3D, Nintendo finally figured it out, which is why NSMB Wii is coming, better late than never.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Pray-stay-shun...

...That is all.