It'd be too slow. Reading data from a hard drive is massively quicker than reading an optical disc, especially if the data isn't stored sequentially. Also, with the size of games these days, the PC would probably also have to decompress data from the DVD as well, adding to extra latency.

Wrong. Piracy is a different thing. Different word, different definition, and it is completely illegal and discouraged by the entire game industry.

Renting games is not piracy, it gives money directly to developers. 2nd hand sales stimulate the gaming economy. Scale has nothing to do with it. I've told you that many times, but apparently you've been skimming my posts. YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. The point isn't "what the developers make" it's "there are many, many differences between renting/borrowing/tradingin, and piracy, and to simplify it by calling it the "same thing" despite those significant differences(one of which you admitted just now) is simplistic and ignorant, along with being factually incorrect. It's also your opinion based upon your own deductions, which aren't shared by many people, including the developers and publishers you pretend to champion.

Console developers and the industry as a whole could stop game trading MUCH easier than they could stop piracy.

Obviously.

Used gaming might be depriving developers of money, but piracy is depriving the industry of money. No money moves. No money changes hands. No one benefits, but the pirate.

That's a pretty damn big difference.

Along with the fact that used game resale causes MUCH smaller losses to developers than any single uploading pirate.

There's two big differences.

Piracy is illegal, used gaming is not.

There's three big differences.

Do you see how they aren't "the same" as you so put it.

Are they the same, really? Aren't there differences? Important ones?

Are you still implying that those differences don't matter?

WTF bro? If you can't understand that, then you just aren't willing to listen.

The industry? Are you fucknig with me? The industry consists of 2 things, developers and publishers. End of story. You deprive both of them of money. Instead YOU gain the money they should have. You aren't part of the industry. No one benefits but you whne you sell your game. You even make money out of it so you benefit far more than if you jsut pirated the game. You are far worse than a normal pirate sitting aat home.

"Piracy is illegal used gaming is not."

I don't give a fuck about laws. I'm sure you would have been right there lynching black people since it wasn't illegal back in the day, right? Wasn't illegal after all, so why the fuck not. Stick your Laws where the sun don't shine, laws don;t reflect ight and wrong, they never have.

And youa re right, you only convinced me that selling your used games is far dirtier and morally fuced up than jsut sharing it online. You actually make money you don't deserve at all while depriving the people who do deserve it. So I guess it is different. Please step off your high and mighty throne, you are far worse than most pirates.

Yes, and I have played those games... once. ANd I was done with them. Why should I replay Zelda after getting 100%? or just about any of the other ones. Notice Tekken is a fighting game which I addressed in the post, as well as platformer games. Also Dragon Agre Origins will be far superior on the PC than on the console, so you can strike that off your list.

Point is it isn't exclusive.

Also, how is Demon Souls?

The original argument implies that PC gaming is better than console gaming because you state that you can play PC games longer, without explaing why. Apparently they are more hardcore, and less shallow.

Anyway, that's wrong, of course. Also, you've marginalized fighting games by saying, "Oh, let's exclude those...and platformers, because they don't fit in with my argument." What if I marginalized FPS and RTS games?

You've implied that you would RATHER play the same games for years, than have new AAA titles every other month. If you HAD to choose, and you stuck with that, you'd have NEVER played Zelda to 100 percent(or at all). You would have never played nearly any of the major innovative games in gaming, and you would hardly be able to speak intelligently about gaming on this forum. Dude, you would have never played a Mario game...

I just think that saying you would rather play the same 3 AAA games for 20 years, than play a new AAA exclusive game ever few months, is silly. I also think that saying "console games aren't as hardcore and deep a computer games" is a gross elitist implication, and it's also incorrect.

I do understand your argument though. I still play Vagarant Story, Disgaea, and FF:T occasionally. I just don't have much time with all the AAA exclusive content coming to the consoles. :P

Lol, considering the developer and publisher own steam, it's no surprise. Is valve publishing for xbox as well, or only for steam?

You're wrong here, Vlad. Publishers would love used game sales to be equated to piracy. If you buy a game (or anything else) you have an absolute right to sell it on. In the US, resale of copyrighted material is covered by the First-sale Doctrine. Although publishers would like a slice of the used game market, they ain't getting it and have no right to it. They've made money through the initial sale, what happens from then on is none of their business.

They will try ever more elaborate DRM and DLC schemes to try and hobble the used games market, but you can bet the first time someone comes home with a second hand copy of Madden or FIFA and can't play it, all hell will break loose. The only DRM scheme that works and doesn't fuck over the consumer at the minute is Steam- you get a lot of extra stuff (auto-patching, community etc) in return for not being able to sell your games on.

I'll explain why. Easy to access free multiplayer with endless communities to bring you new content. Starcraft has it, Half-Life has it, Wrcraft has it, Diablo II has it, Deus Ex does too. Please, show me a single console game that follows that, also LBP's levels can be marginally considered "new content," new level designs have existed since 1990.

Also, Dont talk to me about revolutionizing games on the consoles. Outside of mario 64 there hasn't been a single true revolutionizing game on a console outide of fighting and platforming. It has been all on PCs, RPGs, FPSes, Startegy, racing, all genre defining games have been on the PC, the consoles only copy and half-ass.

Im not knowing if i shuld get this game. I want a new online multiplayer. Wolfenstein online is weak, but Im still having so much fun with Enemy Territory: Quake Wars (best online shooter made).

You are arguing laws here. I'm not. As stated earlier, laws allowed you to lynch people. I'm talking morality. As far as that goes and the effects, selling your game used is worse than copying and passing it along.