Please don't lump the DS into this nonsense. It's so powerful to gamers of all walks of life that it will eat your children in a finely cooked stew. DS is absolutely godly.

Except Shovelware sells terribly on the Wii

@ Soriku

You're right honestly, this is basially a day late and a dollar short summation.

Good, the core market is a dead end fringe market, why should Nintendo chase them when there are blue oceans to sail

Still with this nonsense? What is this a time warp to 2007?

So the fastest selling console in videogames history, with many of its games in the all-time TOP100 videogames sales, is not a "viable" software selling machine?

I just wanted to reply to that particular point in your post, but i'm afraid there are many other things wrong as well...

Nintendo isn't the one to blame, when many 3rd parties don't want to put some real efforts and real investments for the most successful console this gen: of course, you could say that Nintendo could hire more people, and buy some creative 2nd party as well, to create even more games on their own...

But then, everyone in the industry will blame them for another "good" reason: only Nintendo games sell well on Nintendo consoles, there's no room for others... it's nothing new, we've heard this for ages and ages, and someone well informed like you should know better...

But really, do you think Nintendo has something to learn from Sony and Microsoft? Like what? Losing billions and billions of dollars just to stay relevant this gen? Make very expensive games for very expensive consoles, games which then need to sell at least one million copies (if not two), just to start being profitable?

This solution is "viable" for the 10 or 20 blockbusters released each year, but what about all the other creative "niche" games? These games will never sell millions and millions of copies, so what? They don't have the right to exist anymore, because "only" 200.000 people want to play them?

If that's the future you want for this industry, be prepared for a real disaster, economically, and creatively... and don't blame Nintendo, then...

Yes, the competition for the Wii has increased in sales at the expense of Wii sales. They have both dropped the price 2-3 times however, and the Wii is at the launch price. Market saturation eventually occurs.

No, not every "core" series goes to the Wii. Not every "core" series goes to any individual system. Not even the PS2 had them all. Don't be absurd with your expectations and you won't be disapointed. Nintendo has continued to be better with developer relations, but it is hard to fix burned bridges. No company will forget the last 3 generations so quickly. There is a series of core games coming out, from third parties, before the end of this fiscal year. A lot of it looks to be Q1 2010, but thats just the name of the game for all systems right now. If you want the games another platform offers then I suggest you pick it up, but don't pretend there is nothing offered as an alternative on the Wii.

Still is it wrong to want more from a console?

Is it wrong to want more from the Wii?

Yes they lost the core market completely, but what does it matter? Differentiation is good. Anyone interested in 'core' games can buy a cheap X360 as a compliment to his Wii.

Yes that is wrong, because it's gaming gluttony, which is one of the seven deadly gaming sins.

How dare anybody make a console that's aimed at normal folk!!!

I, like many of my hardcore gaming brethren, am such a hardcore gamer that I've never kissed a girl, had a bath or left the house.

I could have lived a full and satisfying life, but instead I decided to devote it to playing COD4 and Halo 3 24/7...oh ,and slagging off nintendo as much as possible...