Just before TGS started microsoft confirmed its TGS lineup and on the video only section it said halo reach , so where the hell is it lol ?

it was problably the same trailer as E3...and if not..it was a private showing...I think it's the E3 trailer

Well then here's hoping to some shaky cam footage appearing on the net in a few days.

i want halo reach badly,

IF it was there it will have been a private showing.

But no reports at all about the showing seems odd.

I doubt they showed anything other than the E3 video.

Yeah....they will probably keep a tight lip on this one until E3 next year.

I have a feeling Bungie will have a very impressive engine for Reach. Some people may hope that Reach goes for realism, but I REALLY HOPE Bungie dont cash in on the graphics side to try and look more real than KZ2 say. They can do better graphics, but keep the art style. Halo isn't supposed to have realistic graphics, but it is supposed to have a suedo sci fi make believe visual feel.

Halo 3's engine is massively underated, and frowned upon by many that have only ever seen screenshots. But in fact the engine is very impressive. Playing ODST recently says it all. Just the pure amount of wow they do with draw distance and enemies on screen shows where their priorities lie.

Reach I believe will be more detailed scenery, more enemies and better effects. If it does that, it will be the best FPS engine. Just please dont try and look real.

its the same one at E3, just translated in japanese i guess.

I agree with you, but I do believe Blizzard is going to bright a massive improvment on the graphics, over the Halo 3 engine...HD, imho.