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Orca_Azure on 21 September 2009
stof said:
See. Here's the thing. The notion that Nintendo will release an HD Wii is silly. The notion that Nintendo's next console will be HD is pretty reasonable.

This sounds more like he thinks Nintendo's next console will come out in 2011. That would be a 5 year Wii all on it's own life cycle (with probably another two years of succesful Wii sales on top of it's successor sales. That might be a bit early... But it might not. It all depends on what Nintendo hopes to do with their next console.

agreed. if hd is going to be a thing with nintendo, it's better to do that later with another system instead of introducing it all of a sudden on the wii.



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Soundwave on 21 September 2009

Final Fantasy XIII + XIII Versus for Wii 2, lol.

I think Dragon Quest X will be for Wii, but will run in HD if you have a Wii 2.

And yes I think 2011 is about right. Square-Enix likely knows a hell of a lot more than anyone on this board. 



Avinash_Tyagi on 21 September 2009

It won't even be a Wii, it'll be something new, probably something using vitality sensors to play games



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

DM235 on 22 September 2009
Soriku said:
DM235 said:
@Soriku

Slight exaggeration on my part, and I didn’t expect anyone to take it seriously. But with sales already declining, Nintendo will be forced to keep lowering the price to maintain market share. In two years it will probably be selling for $150, and it just won’t be making enough money to make Nintendo shareholders happy. Therefore I think they will introduce a new console, most likely priced at $250 again, to keep the momentum going.

You said it will go on “just like the PS2”. Well, just like the PS2, if Sony can support it and the PS3, why cannot Nintendo support the Wii and the Wii HD?

Also, I think the gaming market is somewhat split right now between HD gaming and casual gaming. I think that PS2 really captured both markets, which is why it was so successful. And although I agree that the Wii has expanded the casual market, I don’t think it will be as successful as the PS2.

And no, I don't have a crystal ball and I cannot see the future, but if I had to guess, that's what I think is going to happen. It is entirely possible that Nintendo will release some totally amazing game or peripheral and go on to sell another 100 million units, and make me eat my words.


The reason why sales are so low right now is because they haven't released anything major besides Wii Sports Resort WW and MH3 in Japan. And these are past mid year. The first half nothing notable came out so a decrease is expected. The second half they're trying to get things together with NSMB + Wii Fit Plus + Wii Sports Resort holiday boost + a price cut WW. In Japan they have pretty big releases yet to go. To me I think they'll fare off better. Next year the Wii will still be going in with the new $200 price AND multiple big Nintendo games and third party games. SMG2, Metroid, Zelda (it's either this or Pikmin in 2010 IMO. I'm saying Zelda), a new Retro project likely, MH3, etc. They just need the right SW to really boost sales and a price cut doesn't hurt either.

They can release a new console when the Wii hits 100 mil, sure, but that'd kill off potential Wii sales and it's not like Nintendo is looking to get a new handheld anytime soon despite the DS being over 110 mil, so I don't know why they'd do it with the Wii. I'm saying 2012 for the successor.

With regards to the DS, except for Japan, where I think everyone already has a DS or two, sales are slowing down.  Everywhere else they are still going up.  Mind you, this is after two hardware refreshes.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=DS&reg1=Japan&cons2=DS&reg2=America&cons3=DS&reg3=Total+Other&weeks=275

The same cannot be said for the Wii. 

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Japan&cons2=Wii&reg2=America&cons3=Wii&reg3=Total+Other&weeks=160

There have been quite a few new Wii peripherals, but I don't see what Nintendo could do for a hardware refresh (besides new colours).  And I don't see sequels by themselves doing too much for Wii sales.  Pikmin wasn't huges sales wise.  But I totally forgot about NSMB.  I think it's different enough from SMG to draw new people in.  Heck, NSMB for the DS is what convinced me to get a DS, when SM64 wasn't enough.  And you are right that new games + price cut + great sequels could have a synergistic effect and really boost sales. 

I'm sure someone at Nintendo is crunching all of these numbers, trying to figure out when would be the best time to release the new Wii...



pterodactyl on 22 September 2009
outlawauron said:
pterodactyl said:
ph4nt said:
outlawauron said:
Well, why would anyone think Sony's or MS's motion controllers are going to be significant?

It's called fanboy logic.

This. And, yes, it looks like S-E is finally jumping ship from Sony to Nintendo. Can't really say I blame them.

I wouldn't say that either. I mean, they've still got tons of HD games on the ways that are not going to the Wii.

I expect that to change now, starting with KH3.



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Avinash_Tyagi on 22 September 2009
DM235 said:
Soriku said:
DM235 said:
@Soriku

Slight exaggeration on my part, and I didn’t expect anyone to take it seriously. But with sales already declining, Nintendo will be forced to keep lowering the price to maintain market share. In two years it will probably be selling for $150, and it just won’t be making enough money to make Nintendo shareholders happy. Therefore I think they will introduce a new console, most likely priced at $250 again, to keep the momentum going.

You said it will go on “just like the PS2”. Well, just like the PS2, if Sony can support it and the PS3, why cannot Nintendo support the Wii and the Wii HD?

Also, I think the gaming market is somewhat split right now between HD gaming and casual gaming. I think that PS2 really captured both markets, which is why it was so successful. And although I agree that the Wii has expanded the casual market, I don’t think it will be as successful as the PS2.

And no, I don't have a crystal ball and I cannot see the future, but if I had to guess, that's what I think is going to happen. It is entirely possible that Nintendo will release some totally amazing game or peripheral and go on to sell another 100 million units, and make me eat my words.


The reason why sales are so low right now is because they haven't released anything major besides Wii Sports Resort WW and MH3 in Japan. And these are past mid year. The first half nothing notable came out so a decrease is expected. The second half they're trying to get things together with NSMB + Wii Fit Plus + Wii Sports Resort holiday boost + a price cut WW. In Japan they have pretty big releases yet to go. To me I think they'll fare off better. Next year the Wii will still be going in with the new $200 price AND multiple big Nintendo games and third party games. SMG2, Metroid, Zelda (it's either this or Pikmin in 2010 IMO. I'm saying Zelda), a new Retro project likely, MH3, etc. They just need the right SW to really boost sales and a price cut doesn't hurt either.

They can release a new console when the Wii hits 100 mil, sure, but that'd kill off potential Wii sales and it's not like Nintendo is looking to get a new handheld anytime soon despite the DS being over 110 mil, so I don't know why they'd do it with the Wii. I'm saying 2012 for the successor.

With regards to the DS, except for Japan, where I think everyone already has a DS or two, sales are slowing down.  Everywhere else they are still going up.  Mind you, this is after two hardware refreshes.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=DS&reg1=Japan&cons2=DS&reg2=America&cons3=DS&reg3=Total+Other&weeks=275

The same cannot be said for the Wii.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=Wii&reg1=Japan&cons2=Wii&reg2=America&cons3=Wii&reg3=Total+Other&weeks=160

There have been quite a few new Wii peripherals, but I don't see what Nintendo could do for a hardware refresh (besides new colours).  And I don't see sequels by themselves doing too much for Wii sales.  Pikmin wasn't huges sales wise.  But I totally forgot about NSMB.  I think it's different enough from SMG to draw new people in.  Heck, NSMB for the DS is what convinced me to get a DS, when SM64 wasn't enough.  And you are right that new games + price cut + great sequels could have a synergistic effect and really boost sales.

I'm sure someone at Nintendo is crunching all of these numbers, trying to figure out when would be the best time to release the new Wii...

The concern with the Wii isn't hardware, or even price really, its software, they lost momentum with Wii Music and Animal Crossing and haven't really recaptured it since, NSMB Wii will be key to Wii's future.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

outlawauron on 22 September 2009
pterodactyl said:
outlawauron said:
pterodactyl said:
ph4nt said:
outlawauron said:
Well, why would anyone think Sony's or MS's motion controllers are going to be significant?

It's called fanboy logic.

This. And, yes, it looks like S-E is finally jumping ship from Sony to Nintendo. Can't really say I blame them.

I wouldn't say that either. I mean, they've still got tons of HD games on the ways that are not going to the Wii.

I expect that to change now, starting with KH3.

If that's true why did Square Enix announce 2 more HD games this Summer (Nier and Final Fantasy XIV) and no big Wii titles?



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