If its not an assumption then show me...there are plenty of moderates and conservatives who don't belong to the GOP, so assuming that the GOP would have similar levels of those people, is a fallacy.  You're not showing statistical logic, that is just pulling numbers out of the air.

No I'm not arguing that they agree, I'm arguing that you don't know what political viewpoints those 7% have, so assuming its liberals is an unsubstantiated leap.

Its also seen as wrong by Libertarians, yet I don't see you commenting on their views.  And I don't expect you to, because you don't have any proof of their affiliation, you would have to see how they vote on a variety of issues first.

I'm saying you can't use self identification, but people's viewpoints on a spectrum of issues and their voting behavior can be used, if people tend to vote on a wide variety of issues as liberal then they are probably liberal, same for conservatives and moderates, however you can have people who are anti-abortion, but believe in big government, so trying to pick a particular issue and label them with a viewpoint based on that one view is a fallacy.

Libretarians aren't democrats not in large numbrs anyway.  Libretarians likely factor into the republican side of things though.   Yes.  Which actually further proves MY point.

Studies like the ones you states don't exist.  So for all we know libretarians could be the anti-abortion democrats in your mind.

Here's another one though...

Liberals (yes self identifying) have the lowest favorability rating towards Israel in America of any political affiliation. (Pew global research study.)

Even assuming some people self idetify wrong... a LOT of people would have to self identify wrong for this to be a "mistake".

Additionally being apathetic as in... not supporting... Israel is as  you yourself have just admitted... a Liberal tenant.  Just like it's a Libertarian tenant.

You are kidding right ?

This wouldn't be summer trip like Iraq against powerless demoralised enemy using outdated equipment.

Israel has huge army with a lot of veterans and big reserve , top tier tanks (in some opinions Merkava is better than Abrams), top tier missile technology and last but not least Nukes.

Besides it would be utter idiotism to destroy best vanguard against muslims with your own hands.

Well that and he called Israel a dicatorship.... which... it isn't.

You keep saying its proving your point, when you haven't proven anything at all, just saying it isn't enough I'm afraid, you have to show, Libertarians aren't republicans, they have their own party, so you're making a leap again if you say they would be grouped with the GOP, please show me something that proves your point, because so far all you've shown is wild speculation, without even the smallest basis

I'm not the one tossing out unsubstantiated arguments, so its not in my mind, I'm just pointing out how you have no proof and that you are making assumptions on no data and specious reasoning.

Lowest favorability doesn't mean they are the ones who hate Israel nor does apathy towards Israel mean they hate Israel, sorry, but once again you're speculating and making leaps without any support.

Your entire argument just shows you have a bias against liberals, it doesn't lend support nor proof towards your belief that the 7% are liberals however

It's bias to think liberals are the ones that dislike Israel....

When they are the ones who least likely to perfer Israel to Palestine?

It's bias to think the group that is least likely to perfer Israel to palestine is the group that is likely to see Israel as our enemy?

What?

If Liberals are more likely then Moderates and conservatives to perfer Palestine to Israel... how is it a reach that the 7% are liberals?

Also, amusingly on a personal note my girlfriend is a Liberal.  I'

ve got nothing against liberals... they're like conservatives.  They're right... about half the time.

I'm just capable of basic reasoning skills.

You may as well argue that I don't know for a fact that liberals are for hispanics getting abortions.  I mean sure... they're for everyone else getting abortions... but that group that supports hispanic abortions might be racists from the south.

Unless you have proof that they dislike Israel, then yeah its bias, since you don't have proof, apathy is not hate, preference of Palestinians, does not mean you hate Israel, so yeah you are reaching.

You're not using reasoning skills though, as you yourself point out, another group that has a totally different reason may be the one that is the real percentage, what you are trying to argue is that one thing must mean another thing, that disapproving of Israeli policy must mean hatred of Israel, when all it means is disapproval of Israeli policy.

Until you can show that Liberals make up the majority of that 7%, all you have is that 7% of Americans hate Israel, and that Liberals are more likely to prefer Palestine, but the two aren't interchangeable nor does one indicate the other, heck, a person could hate Israel and Palestine as well, it isn't a zero sum game as you seem to think.

I wonder how many Jews in the USA are voting democrats and how many on republicans nowadays. I always found the Jew support for the democrats awkward, and I have felt bitter about it.

78% voted for Obama according to exit polls

Israel is only interested in what Israel wants. They have never been a great Allie to anyone and have caused their surrounding neighbours a lot of problems. As well as the minorities within Israel are among the most oppressed in the world. Any Alliance with the rest of the West is based only on what they can take.

I am actually surprised that 55% of Liberals in the US are that stupid.

Israel needs to keep their hands in their own pockets and become an upstanding peaceful nation who helps their minorities and neighbours before they deserve any respect. Even Germany and Japan are far far better nations now and we were at war with them, and they ran slave death camps, only decades ago.